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  • moltres.
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    #31
    i hope its in the uk so i dont have to stay up till 5am

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Originally posted by Pigeons
      If Joshua knocks him out in a couple of rounds, no one is going to care where the first or second fights happened IMO.
      I don't think you know boxing fans then. Some boxing fans still care about Floyd vs Manny PED sh^t in 2019 lol.

      I think the main thing is fewer Americans will pay attention if the fight happens abroad so it'll kinda be like a Newspaper saying some shocking front page headline that wasn't true on Tuesday & then on Wednesday morning they put it in small print on page 7 that it was a bs story.

      Obviously different situations, but I believe somewhat comparable in the impact the L had on US fans vs what a W for Joshua will have if its in some faraway land.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        I don't think you know boxing fans then. Some boxing fans still care about Floyd vs Manny PED sh^t in 2019 lol.

        I think the main thing is fewer Americans will pay attention if the fight happens abroad so it'll kinda be like a Newspaper saying some shocking front page headline that wasn't true on Tuesday & then on Wednesday morning they put it in small print on page 7 that it was a bs story.

        Obviously different situations, but I believe somewhat comparable in the impact the L had on US fans vs what a W for Joshua will have if its in some faraway land.
        If Joshua were to win the rematch in America , Americans aren’t gonna suddenly like him again ..... hardly any did to begin with

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          #34
          Originally posted by Straightener
          If Joshua were to win the rematch in America , Americans aren’t gonna suddenly like him again ..... hardly any did to begin with
          Didn't say they would.

          Problem for Joshua is that he got KTFO in his intro to a lot of US fans. Can't be homies if you're boy got KTFO on day 1. But he reverses that with a lot of US fans if he does so in the US. If this fight happens in the UK its gonna get less coverage here & a lot less people will see it in the US.

          And lets be straight up. Joshua & DAZN ain't gonna be the best homies either if Joshua is simply a UK fighter. He's not getting some $200M type deal if he fights in the UK only. Joshua NEEDS to fight in the US to maximize his money cuz DAZN gots the money & they are the ones who are most wiling to back up the truck for Joshua.

          So this isn't fully about the US fans either. Its about DAZN wanting Joshua to become a draw in the US.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Straightener
            If Joshua were to win the rematch in America , Americans aren’t gonna suddenly like him again ..... hardly any did to begin with
            They would gain more respect for him if he came back here and avenged the loss.

            If he takes the fight over to the UK it will look like he can't handle the mean streets of America. And if he wins thanks to a dodgy UK ref then he will actually lose respect.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Didn't say they would.

              Problem for Joshua is that he got KTFO in his intro to a lot of US fans. Can't be homies if you're boy got KTFO on day 1. But he reverses that with a lot of US fans if he does so in the US. If this fight happens in the UK its gonna get less coverage here & a lot less people will see it in the US.

              And lets be straight up. Joshua & DAZN ain't gonna be the best homies either if Joshua is simply a UK fighter. He's not getting some $200M type deal if he fights in the UK only. Joshua NEEDS to fight in the US to maximize his money cuz DAZN gots the money & they are the ones who are most wiling to back up the truck for Joshua.

              So this isn't fully about the US fans either. Its about DAZN wanting Joshua to become a draw in the US.
              The only way Joshua Is gonna make in the states is if he gets past Ruiz (big ask) then takes out wilder

              Both look a long shot but he shouldn’t worry what people think of he takes the rematch over here . He’s not gonna get love for a long time untill he beats wilder

              That’s the truth

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                #37
                Originally posted by Straightener
                Both look a long shot but he shouldn’t worry what people think of he takes the rematch over here . He’s not gonna get love for a long time untill he beats wilder

                That’s the truth
                He's definitely not getting love by hiding from US fans even if he beats Wilder. More importantly he's not getting some Canelo-like deal if he doesn't fight in the US more often. The latter is in play more than the former I'd argue.

                DAZN don't give a f#ck if the fans love him. They just want the fans to wanna watch him.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  He's definitely not getting love by hiding from US fans even if he beats Wilder. More importantly he's not getting some Canelo-like deal if he doesn't fight in the US more often. The latter is in play more than the former I'd argue.

                  DAZN don't give a f#ck if the fans love him. They just want the fans to wanna watch him.
                  Read my original comment

                  Get the belts back (priority) then head back to the states

                  If he gets battered again it’s game over anyway

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Didn't say they would.

                    Problem for Joshua is that he got KTFO in his intro to a lot of US fans. Can't be homies if you're boy got KTFO on day 1. But he reverses that with a lot of US fans if he does so in the US. If this fight happens in the UK its gonna get less coverage here & a lot less people will see it in the US.

                    And lets be straight up. Joshua & DAZN ain't gonna be the best homies either if Joshua is simply a UK fighter. He's not getting some $200M type deal if he fights in the UK only. Joshua NEEDS to fight in the US to maximize his money cuz DAZN gots the money & they are the ones who are most wiling to back up the truck for Joshua.

                    So this isn't fully about the US fans either. Its about DAZN wanting Joshua to become a draw in the US.
                    AJ did not get KTFO. He got his ass beat and quit. He turned his back to the ref and laid against his corner. He quit without saying I quit.

                    AJ is not a champion. He is a quitter and a biiitch.

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                    • Eff Pandas
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Straightener
                      Read my original comment

                      Get the belts back (priority) then head back to the states

                      If he gets battered again it’s game over anyway
                      If it don't matter if he gets battered anyway why not go big at beating the guy who beat you at his house?

                      Any other move is gonna look weak & be a lesser story for him in the future.

                      And idk that it is over if he loses. Boxing fans love to rubber stamp mfers into retirement after a bad L, but when you get as big as Joshua is you just don't die off cuz you took an L or two.

                      Look no further than Adrien Broner. Granted Adrien isn't as big as Joshua, but this mfer is losing fights left & right & even putting in sh^t performance fights & still gots a solid following. Joshua would follow a similar slow downward trajectory if he never wins another fight again.

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