WADA Exonerates Canelo Alvarez with New 2019 Ruling on Meat Contamination Findings!

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  • AKAcronym
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    #51
    I really need to avoid threads involving Canelo because some of his fans are so ****ing ****** and/or illiterate to understand what is being presented to them. The lengths they're going to defend him is making this sight intolerable at points.

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    • Lion81
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      #52
      Originally posted by AKAcronym
      But he had started training already. So he goes all the way to Mexico, not to train, but just eat? And eat the one thing he's not supposed to? Doesn't add up.
      Canelo why u eat food in Mexco ...tell me why u aet food in mexco!!

      Why you go to Mexco???

      Why yuo do dis?????

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      • Mexican_Puppet
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        #53
        Originally posted by QballLobo
        He was exonerated when he supplied a hair follicle test and it showed no traces. If he had been using enough dosage to help him get an advantage it would have showed up many months later. He also did random testing leading up to the GGG rematch. Oh and despite undergoing the most rigorous testing he looked even better in the rematch.
        It was a bad look but those street tacos in Mexico are too good to pass up. I was in Guadalajara a few years ago and would probably came up dirty when I came home.

        The best post of the thread

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        • Lion81
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          #54
          Originally posted by AKAcronym
          I really need to avoid threads involving Canelo because some of his fans are so ****ing ****** and/or illiterate to understand what is being presented to them. The lengths they're going to defend him is making this sight intolerable at points.

          Stay out of his threads then. Go read about Charlo or GGG.

          Im sure those threads are an awesome read lol

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          • Citizen Koba
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            #55
            Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
            lmao. here let me put the following in bold and bigger size font..

            Keywords in Meat Contamination, Clenbuterol...?

            The article itself has those words you dorks! lol


            https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/ne...-contamination
            Yeah man. Idon't think you understood that either. I think the point being made is that having an agenda - in your case defending and/or promoting all things Canelo and DAZN - gets in the way of correctly understanding and processing the information in front of you.

            You process stuff quickly by skimming it, man, and produce a high volume of wordage that sounds kinda relevant quite quickly and that's a skill in it's own right... but your depth of comprehension suffers as a result.

            Just my 2p. For what it worth I find you kinda entertaining and even pretty humourous at times... much rather that than some of the idiots on here who don't seem to have a positive word to say about anything or anyone.
            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 06-29-2019, 02:48 PM.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #56
              Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
              Yeah man. Idon't think you understood that either. I think the point being made is that having an agenda - in your case defending and/or promoting all things Canelo and DAZN - gets in the way of correctly understanding and processing the information in front of you.

              You process stuff quickly by skimming it, man, and produce a high volume of wordage that sounds kinda relevant quite quickly and that's a skill in it's own right... but your depth of comprehension suffers as a result.

              Just my 2p. For what it worth I find you kinda entertaining and even pretty humourous at times... much rather that than some of the idiots on here who don't seem to have a positive word to say about anything or anyone.
              Lol. You still think I'm joking when I mention Dr. Margaret Goodman and her expertise as head of VADA. HEre's a Ring Mag article regarding Francisco Vargas. Read it CLEARLY. THen revisit the initial article of this thread. And then, ask yourself, in a judicial system, how was Vargas waived by VADA and not Canelo when Vargas had worse circumstances than Canelo?
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              The California State Athletic Commission decided to issue Francisco Vargas a temporary boxing license on a probationary basis on Friday after he tested positive for the weight-loss steroid clenbuterol ahead of his June 4 fight with Orlando Salido on HBO.

              If Vargas, a junior lightweight titleholder, passes the ensuing drug tests before his fight at StubHub Center in Carson, California, the commission will “strongly consider” granting him a license, Andy Foster, executive officer of the California commission told ******.com in a phone interview.

              “I would think that if he complies totally and he does everything and he’s negative on all of his tests,” Foster said, “I would certainly think the fight could move forward at that time.”

              If Vargas (23-0-1, 17 knockouts) fails another drug test, however, “the fight’s done,” Foster said. Vargas is in the process of moving his camp to California after he tested positive for clenbuterol in his home country of Mexico. Foster noted that Vargas passed random drug testing while he was still in the U.S., and Vargas insists the positive drug test was the result of consuming contaminated meat. Golden Boy VP Eric Gomez, his promoter, said Vargas was tainted after he ingested beef stew prepared by his mother.

              Foster said those extenuating circumstances were taken into account when the commission decided to issue Vargas a temporary license on Friday after participating in a teleconference. HBO declined to comment on the situation.

              The 31-year-old Vargas captured his 130-pound world title when he rose from a knockdown and a shut eye to stop Takashi Miura in the ninth round on the Canelo Alvarez-Miguel Cotto undercard.

              “I think you have to look at the facts that led up to this case,” Foster said. “This is a person who requested VADA do the testing. This is a person who six days earlier when they were in the United States tested clean. Then, they went to Mexico and they tested — and it was a very small amount – but still (he) tested positive. You certainly have to look at that situation and at least kind of give (him) the benefit of the doubt.”

              Foster also pointed to the nature of the drug as another reason the commission took a lenient approach to Vargas’ punishment. “Sometimes this drug is used for cutting weight,” Foster said. “Well, we’re six weeks out. It didn’t make sense. There were a lot of things that didn’t add up to me. So we’re going to give this guy the benefit of the doubt with a temporary license and test him multiple times leading up to the fight to see what happens.” Added Foster, “Not every type of banned substance is created equal.”
              The question of how quick the drug will pass through Vargas’ system was raised on the teleconference call, and the answer is that it’s different for everyone based on their metabolism Foster said.

              Vargas was tested on April 21 by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA), and the results came back on Wednesday. Dr. Margaret Goodman, president and chairwoman of VADA said her organization is willing to continue to test Vargas until the California commission makes a “determination of whether a doping violation has occurred. That is not VADA’s role.”

              And the commission is allowing Vargas a second chance to prove he is clean. Goodman said VADA can only determine when a doping violation has occurred when the ‘B’ sample confirms the ‘A’ sample or if a fighter waives his right to have the ‘B’ sample tested. In this case, only Vargas’ ‘A’ sample has been tested and Vargas’ camp has not indicated to VADA if they want the ‘B’ sample tested, Dr. Goodman said.
              “Bottom line is, we have no role in whether this fight should occur or not,” Goodman said. “That’s just not our role. Our role as a third party agency is to ensure that the testing is carried out to the highest standards.”

              Gomez was heartened by the commission’s decision to give Vargas another chance and keep a fight alive that many fans have circled on their calendars. “I’m a boxing fan first, a promoter second,” Gomez said in a phone interview. “I was very excited when I got the fight done. Obviously, this was a big blow and then all this stuff blew up yesterday. But I think (the commission’s ruling) is the best result that could have happened. Vargas wants to prove that he’s 100% clean, and this was an accident.”

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              • AKAcronym
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                #57
                Originally posted by Lion81
                Canelo why u eat food in Mexco ...tell me why u aet food in mexco!!

                Why you go to Mexco???

                Why yuo do dis?????
                Pretty odd to go all the way to Mexico to eat the one thing he's not supposed to when training, when he had already started training in SD, no?

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                • Citizen Koba
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                  Lol. You still think I'm joking when I mention Dr. Margaret Goodman and her expertise as head of VADA. HEre's a Ring Mag article regarding Francisco Vargas. Read it CLEARLY. THen revisit the initial article of this thread. And then, ask yourself, in a judicial system, how was Vargas waived by VADA and not Canelo when Vargas had worse circumstances than Canelo?
                  _________________________________

                  The California State Athletic Commission decided to issue Francisco Vargas a temporary boxing license on a probationary basis on Friday after he tested positive for the weight-loss steroid clenbuterol ahead of his June 4 fight with Orlando Salido on HBO.

                  If Vargas, a junior lightweight titleholder, passes the ensuing drug tests before his fight at StubHub Center in Carson, California, the commission will “strongly consider” granting him a license, Andy Foster, executive officer of the California commission told ******.com in a phone interview.

                  “I would think that if he complies totally and he does everything and he’s negative on all of his tests,” Foster said, “I would certainly think the fight could move forward at that time.”

                  If Vargas (23-0-1, 17 knockouts) fails another drug test, however, “the fight’s done,” Foster said. Vargas is in the process of moving his camp to California after he tested positive for clenbuterol in his home country of Mexico. Foster noted that Vargas passed random drug testing while he was still in the U.S., and Vargas insists the positive drug test was the result of consuming contaminated meat. Golden Boy VP Eric Gomez, his promoter, said Vargas was tainted after he ingested beef stew prepared by his mother.

                  Foster said those extenuating circumstances were taken into account when the commission decided to issue Vargas a temporary license on Friday after participating in a teleconference. HBO declined to comment on the situation.

                  The 31-year-old Vargas captured his 130-pound world title when he rose from a knockdown and a shut eye to stop Takashi Miura in the ninth round on the Canelo Alvarez-Miguel Cotto undercard.

                  “I think you have to look at the facts that led up to this case,” Foster said. “This is a person who requested VADA do the testing. This is a person who six days earlier when they were in the United States tested clean. Then, they went to Mexico and they tested — and it was a very small amount – but still (he) tested positive. You certainly have to look at that situation and at least kind of give (him) the benefit of the doubt.”

                  Foster also pointed to the nature of the drug as another reason the commission took a lenient approach to Vargas’ punishment. “Sometimes this drug is used for cutting weight,” Foster said. “Well, we’re six weeks out. It didn’t make sense. There were a lot of things that didn’t add up to me. So we’re going to give this guy the benefit of the doubt with a temporary license and test him multiple times leading up to the fight to see what happens.” Added Foster, “Not every type of banned substance is created equal.”
                  The question of how quick the drug will pass through Vargas’ system was raised on the teleconference call, and the answer is that it’s different for everyone based on their metabolism Foster said.

                  Vargas was tested on April 21 by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA), and the results came back on Wednesday. Dr. Margaret Goodman, president and chairwoman of VADA said her organization is willing to continue to test Vargas until the California commission makes a “determination of whether a doping violation has occurred. That is not VADA’s role.”

                  And the commission is allowing Vargas a second chance to prove he is clean. Goodman said VADA can only determine when a doping violation has occurred when the ‘B’ sample confirms the ‘A’ sample or if a fighter waives his right to have the ‘B’ sample tested. In this case, only Vargas’ ‘A’ sample has been tested and Vargas’ camp has not indicated to VADA if they want the ‘B’ sample tested, Dr. Goodman said.
                  “Bottom line is, we have no role in whether this fight should occur or not,” Goodman said. “That’s just not our role. Our role as a third party agency is to ensure that the testing is carried out to the highest standards.”

                  Gomez was heartened by the commission’s decision to give Vargas another chance and keep a fight alive that many fans have circled on their calendars. “I’m a boxing fan first, a promoter second,” Gomez said in a phone interview. “I was very excited when I got the fight done. Obviously, this was a big blow and then all this stuff blew up yesterday. But I think (the commission’s ruling) is the best result that could have happened. Vargas wants to prove that he’s 100% clean, and this was an accident.”
                  Well you're persistent for sure.

                  How about if I consider it two different decisions made at different times by different people under different political climates and different levels of scrutiny in different magnitudes of fight? How about if I consider the two events almost entirely unlinked except in that they involve the same pharmaceutical and the same explanation for it's presence in the urine of the respective fighters.

                  Could be there's something in your wild sounding theory though, man, I can't prove their ain't... but I ain't much interested either.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    Well you're persistent for sure.

                    How about if I consider it two different decisions made at different times by different people under different political climates and different levels of scrutiny in different magnitudes of fight? How about if I consider the two events almost entirely unlinked except in that they involve the same pharmaceutical and the same explanation for it's presence in the urine of the respective fighters.

                    Could be there's something in your wild sounding theory though, man, I can't prove their ain't... but I ain't much interested either.
                    The commissions get consulting from the advanced anti doping agency if one was appointed and agreed upon by the promoters. Andy Foster got the green light by Margaret Goodman regarding the meat contamination.

                    again, SMRTL Director Eichner was VADA's go to guy for Canelo's samples and he said, consistent with meat contamination. Is Dr. Eichner a monkey running a WADA accredited lab that doesn't have a scientific say?

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                    • Phenom
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                      #60
                      Canelo is getting some more of that special beef and fight Kovalev

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