WBC Decision makes sense. Think about it.

[Lion81]

Ok no problem.

So they strip Canelo or whatever new superstar boxer at the time for refusing to always listen to his mandatories....good luck if you have more than one belt btw.

So now you have two guys fighting for a belt without the top dog in the conversation.

Lame

Oscar, Pac, Floyd, Canelo etc become top dog because they're always winning, which means more people tuning in, which in turn produces a superstar with all the power and leverage to do as he wishes.

[Sable&Whitefish]

I fail to see how your explanations justifies what they did, or could change the average boxing fan's perspective about it.

You're saying: "Canelo is bigger than belts and sanctioning bodies, he'll fight whoever he wants." Ok, cool. So he can drop the belt if he doesn't want to fight the mandatory.

Sure, it makes sense that they would do anything to have him keep a WBC belt because they want sanctioning fees and advertising from him, but that doesn't justify the decision, they're still changing the rules for one person so they can make more money, and still kowtowing to a fighter when in theory a sanctioning body should not be beholden or even closely associated with any fighter.

We all get why they did it, it's obvious, but it's fucvking ****** and crooked and the WBC AND CANELO deserve every bit of hate they get for it.

[ShaneMosleySr]

I completely agree that stripped unified champs and guys who are clearly the best is dumb.

I just don’t understand why the wbc decided they agreed with me for the first time ever but only when it pertains to one fighter.

Ok no problem.

So they strip Canelo or whatever new superstar boxer at the time for refusing to always listen to his mandatories....good luck if you have more than one belt btw.

So now you have two guys fighting for a belt without the top dog in the conversation.

Lame

Oscar, Pac, Floyd, Canelo etc become top dog because they're always winning, which means more people tuning in, which in turn produces a superstar with all the power and leverage to do as he wishes.

[boliodogs]

I was just as pissed about the WBC naming Canelo "franchise champion". As if the belt situation wasn't ridiculous already, adding this new name designation only helps feed the hate towards Canelo who never asked for this...

However, it makes sense now that I've read the official statement from the WBC.

As fighters go from Amateur, to prodigy, to professional and then finally to superstar, they are impossible to manage.

You can't tell them what to do, literally you can't.

You can't tell Oscar De La Hoya when he's the Golden Boy, PPV super star to go fight a mandatory dude that people have never heard of instead of some other more intriguing fight.

The idea of the WBC or the WBA or IBF telling Canelo what to do is laughable. Canelo right now is like a god in boxing. You can't tell that dude shiiit.

Floyd Mayweather listened to no one. He fought whoever he damn well pleased and in his day he and only he called the shots in boxing.

You simply can't corner or bully or even ask anything of these guys once they become Primadonna superstars. You just can't.

The belts work in theory, when a boxer wants to be a Champion and is still looking to fight for it, but once they reach PPV superstar status, and you're trying to block a super fight because...dude over here in our rankings wants his shot, watch them drop your belt. So when the superstar doesn't agree and wants other legacy or big money fights instead and they don't mind leaving the belt in the dust...

...then what?

It makes sense to you. I think it is total BS. This franchise title is useless and unneeded. Canelo can do what he wants and nobody can make him do anything but special titles shouldn't be made up just for him, If he doesn't defend his title he should lose it just like any other champion. He shouldn't be untouchable and above the rules. The IBF and WBA don't take orders from the WBC. If they think Canelo is not being a proper middleweight champ they can strip him of their belt.

[boliodogs]

I fail to see how your explanations justifies what they did, or could change the average boxing fan's perspective about it.

You're saying: "Canelo is bigger than belts and sanctioning bodies, he'll fight whoever he wants." Ok, cool. So he can drop the belt if he doesn't want to fight the mandatory.

Sure, it makes sense that they would do anything to have him keep a WBC belt because they want sanctioning fees and advertising from him, but that doesn't justify the decision, they're still changing the rules for one person so they can make more money, and still kowtowing to a fighter when in theory a sanctioning body should not be beholden or even closely associated with any fighter.

We all get why they did it, it's obvious, but it's fucvking ****** and crooked and the WBC AND CANELO deserve every bit of hate they get for it.

Well said and I agree. I hope Canelo gets beat and his strange franchise title goes up in smoke. I used to be a big Canelo fan but he has become so arrogant and superior that he is nothing like the Canelo of a few years ago. Now he tells a champion he just barely beat that he must win a belt to fight his royal highness. He clearly was not going to fight him belt or no belt. He has become a nasty sht pushing opponents around at the weigh in and talking down to them. I don't think he is training as hard as he used to. He thinks he is so good he doesn't need to. I think a loss is coming his way real soon.

[4truth]

Looks like the truth to me. Canelo, just like Floyd, is bigger than the belt. He said it when he vacated the wbc before. He can fight who he wants, when he wants, and it won't hurt his bottom line one bit if the strap isn't there.

Mauricio knows who his daddy is...

That’s true only if DAZN has written themselves a contract that does not protect their own interests. That seems unlikely to me.

[GGG Gloveking]

That’s true only if DAZN has written themselves a contract that does not protect their own interests. That seems unlikely to me.

That is a good point. I've wondered about the DAZN contract and how that works. I still think Canelo somehow will call his own shots

[andocom]

Its the fact there are 4 sanctioning bodies which brings about this insanity IMO. The fact they are all basically private companies trying to make money doesn't help. If there was only one it could take all fights into account and you wouldn't have these no names mondos.

Tennis, Golf, Soccer, Cricket, Athletics, basically every other major sport has figured it out. Professional boxing has such a long shady history I guess everyone is just conditioned to the obvious corruption and absurdity.

[MASTERBX]

Sanctioning fees is the reason they did it! if canelo had any integrity he would have told them to go kick rocks!

[Lion81]

I fail to see how your explanations justifies what they did, or could change the average boxing fan's perspective about it.

You're saying: "Canelo is bigger than belts and sanctioning bodies, he'll fight whoever he wants." Ok, cool. So he can drop the belt if he doesn't want to fight the mandatory.

Sure, it makes sense that they would do anything to have him keep a WBC belt because they want sanctioning fees and advertising from him, but that doesn't justify the decision, they're still changing the rules for one person so they can make more money, and still kowtowing to a fighter when in theory a sanctioning body should not be beholden or even closely associated with any fighter.

We all get why they did it, it's obvious, but it's fucvking ****** and crooked and the WBC AND CANELO deserve every bit of hate they get for it.

Not justifying it.

Just understand what the WBC is saying...

Once a boxer becomes a superstar you cant control him. You cant do anything other than strip him.

If they start stripping superstars of their belts who are the actual best boxers...do we really want to see guys with belts around their waste knowing they didn't fight the best?