Boxingscene’s Breadman challenged by Gabriel Montoya after shots fired at Canelo PEDS

[kidbazooka]

Everyone knows Floyd Mayweather is hands down the most privelaged spoiled fighter in boxing history that little fuuucker got two gifts wins Castillo and Maidan 1, was allowed to cheat both with IV and during fights with elbows and was always allowed his gloves, officials etc.

Floyd is the most spoiled little brat in boxing history easily.

[Thuglife Nelo]

You're a motivated dude Frankie, can you sniff out any hard information on what exactly makes VADA 365 more efficacious than the regular VADA as used in the CPB? Some pundits say it's the same, some - like Montoya - claim it's more comprehensive, but no-where have I been able to find any hard info on testing frequency or anything.

I mean, yes, VADA claim they haven't really got the funding for the CPB to be effective even though it is, theoretically, 24/7/365 - so having an athlete actually pay 'em should overcome that... but I would have thought they would be wanting to advertise the efficacy of fighter funded testing.

Not only Montoya says, but Conte and Rafael as well. Assume it’s whats been reported to them by VADA, or more importantly, VADA has never refuted it, and you must wonder why not.

As I had to school Freshbrawler, an LDBC PBC shill, he thinks all SNAC fighters are on the juice. When Jrock beat Hurd, their energy just disappeared. The point is that all the skepticism and hate is tribal. It’s been applied to Canelo.

The fact that Canelo was reported to have failed 2 tests is one of the biggest scandals by an anti doping agency to date. It amazes me how people don’t understand it.

VADA does testing the day the samples are collected. They can conclude the following the day the substance. Meaning, once they saw Canelo’s first sample, VADA and the WBC played goons on the 2nd sample collected 3 days later when VADA knew the depletion rate. If Canelo had been tests each day since the first for 4 days then he would’ve had “4 failed tests” because the substance had a scientific depletion rate.

As one WADA lab director stated, thresholds and nano traces can be exploited at the legal level. Which is exactly what hat suleiman, vada and Loeffler had planned to do with the splits and negotiations. Suleiman got his revenge for Canelo refusing those special belts since Chavez Jr. This is obvious.

It’s a dirty business. Even Andre Ward said he spent thousands to make SURE his supplements weren’t contaminated. Keep in mind if Canelo wanted to, he could’ve said 60 days start testing. He agreed even further out. The whole thing about his camp “miscalibrated” is ridiculous theory.

All boxers have the right to take supplements. All supplements have cross contamination. As Ward said, if anything happens, at least own up to it. Doesn’t mean Canelo cheated. And of course you have meat contamination.

[Citizen Koba]

Not only Montoya says, but Conte and Rafael as well. Assume it’s whats been reported to them by VADA, or more importantly, VADA has never refuted it, and you must wonder why not.

As I had to school Freshbrawler, an LDBC PBC shill, he thinks all SNAC fighters are on the juice. When Jrock beat Hurd, their energy just disappeared. The point is that all the skepticism and hate is tribal. It’s been applied to Canelo.

The fact that Canelo was reported to have failed 2 tests is one of the biggest scandals by an anti doping agency to date. It amazes me how people don’t understand it.

VADA does testing the day the samples are collected. They can conclude the following the day the substance. Meaning, once they saw Canelo’s first sample, VADA and the WBC played goons on the 2nd sample collected 3 days later when VADA knew the depletion rate. If Canelo had been tests each day since the first for 4 days then he would’ve had “4 failed tests” because the substance had a scientific depletion rate.

As one WADA lab director stated, thresholds and nano traces can be exploited at the legal level. Which is exactly what hat suleiman, vada and Loeffler had planned to do with the splits and negotiations. Suleiman got his revenge for Canelo refusing those special belts since Chavez Jr. This is obvious.

It’s a dirty business. Even Andre Ward said he spent thousands to make SURE his supplements weren’t contaminated. Keep in mind if Canelo wanted to, he could’ve said 60 days start testing. He agreed even further out. The whole thing about his camp “miscalibrated” is ridiculous theory.

All boxers have the right to take supplements. All supplements have cross contamination. As Ward said, if anything happens, at least own up to it. Doesn’t mean Canelo cheated. And of course you have meat contamination.

Yeah the bolded is what I'm trying to get more information on... each of 'em says it's better, but doesn't say how or why or provide more hard facts. Ain't even that I disbelieve 'em but I'm just a dude can't help getting curious about the details on this ish - specially when they ain't immediately forthcoming. Don't really like to rely on assumptions.

As to the rest of it - yeah I agree the 'two failed tests' thing should always be at the least clarified if folk are going to say it. Provides a completely misleading impression even if factually accurate - probably wouldn't call it crime of the century though.

Your WBC 'revenge' theory has always just confused me, so I ain't even gonna address it, though I will point you in the direction of Occam's Razor.

And no, none of this means Canelo cheated... I just like to debunk some of the misinformation around and combat some of the BS and myths surrounding this issue.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Lol. It’s the same Freshbrawler that says all Conte SNAC fighters are cheats. Remember you crying about Mikey Garcia vs Spence? You said Haney, Jacobs, Andrade all cheats... lol

Guess what! They’re not 365 like Canelo. That doesn’t mean they’re cheats.

Notice when’s jRock beat Hurd, you and your LDBC cronies didn’t say a lick about SNAC!

Cute story doe about Canelo when you say “it’s crazy...”. Lol. Casuals

Get some help you’re a nutcase lol

[Thuglife Nelo]

Yeah the bolded is what I'm trying to get more information on... each of 'em says it's better, but doesn't say how or why or provide more hard facts. Ain't even that I disbelieve 'em but I'm just a dude can't help getting curious about the details on this ish - specially when they ain't immediately forthcoming. Don't really like to rely on assumptions.

As to the rest of it - yeah I agree the 'two failed tests' thing should always be at the least clarified if folk are going to say it. Provides a completely misleading impression even if factually accurate - probably wouldn't call it crime of the century though.

Your WBC 'revenge' theory has always just confused me, so I ain't even gonna address it, though I will point you in the direction of Occam's Razor.

And no, none of this means Canelo cheated... I just like to debunk some of the misinformation around and combat some of the BS and myths surrounding this issue.

Jose Suleiman always like Canelo when his son Mauricio didn’t.

The LDBC guys never mention why Rozier called the Charlos PED users. They say “oh he’s just a hater and a clown.” Therefore, why is impossible for Mauricio to have plotted against Canelo? It’s Mauricio’s sole purpose to PROMOTE THE GREEN BELT - nothing more, and it brings the fees.

Canelo refused the Mexican belts twice even when Mauricio was trying to be kind even though Mauricio imposed the Purse Bid when Canelo was under his 8.5 mil litigation with All Star. That’s a huge fee to pay, Mauricio didn’t show any empathy towards Canelo in that situation, but only hear Loeffler, HBO, and Abel’s crying for bid finalization. Nelson backed GGG and Loeffler big time, money talks.

And lastly, Nacho Beristain and Marquez hate Canelo. Again, Not impossible that Mauricio plotted against Canelo knowing that all Mexican boxers in thousands can’t afford molecular testing for Clen.

Mauricio knew all this. Canelo never kissed ass. Had he did and accepted those whatever Aztec belts Suleiman would’ve overruled the VADa attempt.

How can VADa exempt Francisco Vargas. Boxing fans are really ******. It’s like a judge letting a **** conviction slide for one guy and not the other. Isn’t it obvious? Vargas had more than Canelo!

[Thuglife Nelo]

Get some help you’re a nutcase lol

I knew you couldn’t handle it. Lol. Where’s your energy on Jrock son? Didn’t think so!

[Boris Johnson!]

though it does appear that the pharmacokinetics of many drugs are different in redheads than in other folk (on account of them having a different type of melanin) so there is that possibility too.

can you link to info on this? have heard of red hair being unreliable for a follicle test, never that hair colour affects blood or urine results

[Zaroku]

What gets me are the amount of mexican fighters blaming canelo. They have far less money and resources yet they can remain clean and only eat clean meat. Canelo has no excuse even if it is froma street taco or whatever

Are your hands heavy because you smoke weed on hitlers b day..
“What gets me”. Really a trite idiomatic expression, regurgitated, and bandied ‘bout like it s the lingual Franca..

Don’t reply with “dude, lol”

Ever lived in or been to Mexico?

[Shape up]

Here's what gets me about the whole thing. Canelo had started training early February with the elevation mask for the second time in his career. He then goes to Mexico and just so happens to eat the one thing his team says he doesn't eat when he's training? And not just eat, but enough either enough of, or has a super concentrated amount of the drug in the amount he ate. They also had planned a high altitude training camp for the first time that I'm aware. And he gets popped for a drug that would definitely help his stamina. We don't know how long those affects stay in the system but it is coincidental that he threw the most punches in his career in the rematch with 622. Other than the Chavez fight which saw him throw barely over 600, he's thrown over 500 once. And now he's back to his historical average of around 450 against Jacobs. There's too many red flags around the clen situation and now we see him jumping around from 155 to 154, 154 to 164, 164 to 160, 160 to 168, back down to 160 and now talking of going to 175. Going to 160 was such an issue for all that time but now he's jumping around like no big deal. I find that su****ious. Not to mention what Koba-Grozny has said about the half-life and the amounts that were found don't quite add up.

Great post, also the testing started 2 weeks earlier, if it had started at the normal time he would have come up clean, tainted meat was an excuse

[Shape up]

Are your hands heavy because you smoke weed on hitlers b day..
“What gets me”. Really a trite idiomatic expression, regurgitated, and bandied ‘bout like it s the lingual Franca..

Don’t reply with “dude, lol”

Ever lived in or been to Mexico?

If it was in his system, he has to take full responsibility for it being there, he is a ped cheat, end of story