Another Pac fight with no Vada

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  • KTFOKING
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    #21
    Originally posted by SplitSecond
    What are you talking about with the 4th marquez fight? I don’t remember any random testing. You mean normal nsac piss before and after tests? That’s not worth mentioning.

    Pacquiao did vada for every fight since marquez iv except for seemingly horn and matthysse.
    Random testing under NSAC. More than just the post-fight drug test.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #22
      Originally posted by john l
      Anyone who still questions Pac and whether he has been still using PEDs how can you explain this.Pac is the A-side which means he can make his opponents do testing if he wanted I mean look at J Rock and he has no where near the power that Pac does.Also if Pac was clean WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD HE TRUST HIS OPPONENTS?????????????????????????
      - -Is this even English?

      PAC and Thurman both signed with VADA, TUE 50-0 never.

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      • champion4ever
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        #23
        May the best man win. Obviously the two combatants agreed to not have VADA random drug testing for this bout. It's their prerogative to have it or not. It was never mandatory anyhow. It's voluntary.

        Where there is no VADA testing which has become the Gold standard for random testing in boxing is not implemented; It just makes the boxing public curious on whether either fighter has something to hide that's all.

        Another thing, that statement that the NSAC released was some bullshit. I don't believe it for a second that they are randomly testing either one of these fighters.

        The fact is they hate VADA. They don't like the idea of some outside testing agency infringing and treading upon them by stepping on their toes or their authority and jurisdiction.

        They made that statement only to save face, in order to duck for cover from this current shitstorm of the Non-VADA testing backlash for this bout.

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          #24
          Floyd fans are funny, Manny not doing VADA in this fights automatically puts him in the category of a drug cheat but forgets that Floyd never did VADA in his entire life.

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            #25
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            Maybe Thurman didn't want to be tested???????????????? Pac has been tested many times and never failed. Why not if he is so obviously guilty????????????????
            Why would Pac who is the A-side let Thurman decide testing????????????All he would have to do is say "no testing, no fight".Also why would he trust Thurman who would have done anything to get money and fame that will come with this fight including testing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by john l
              Anyone who still questions Pac and whether he has been still using PEDs how can you explain this.Pac is the A-side which means he can make his opponents do testing if he wanted I mean look at J Rock and he has no where near the power that Pac does.Also if Pac was clean WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD HE TRUST HIS OPPONENTS?????????????????????????
              How many fights did Floyd have with VADA testing.

              In fact he refused to do VADA testing.

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                #27
                Originally posted by KTFOKING
                Random testing under NSAC. More than just the post-fight drug test.
                An article or something.

                Originally posted by champion4ever
                May the best man win. Obviously the two combatants agreed to not have VADA random drug testing for this bout. It's their prerogative to have it or not. It was never mandatory anyhow. It's voluntary.

                Where there is no VADA testing which has become the Gold standard for random testing in boxing is not implemented; It just makes the boxing public curious on whether either fighter has something to hide that's all.

                Another thing, that statement that the NSAC released was some bullshit. I don't believe it for a second that they are randomly testing either one of these fighters.

                The fact is they hate VADA. They don't like the idea of some outside testing agency infringing and treading upon them by stepping on their toes or their authority and jurisdiction.

                They made that statement only to save face, in order to duck for cover from this current shitstorm of the Non-VADA testing backlash for this bout.
                It has nothing to do with the fighters. Pacquiao and bradley both agreed to vada in their second fight but the nsac didn’t want it and proposed their own intensified random testing program. That’s more than likely what is happening here.

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                • john l
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  How many fights did Floyd have with VADA testing.

                  In fact he refused to do VADA testing.
                  He was the 1st fighter to ask for testing and im not sure VADA was even going at that point in 2010.Also his career went the way it should for a clean fighter when he moved up he lost speed and power and fought more defensive because of it.Thats why you have NEVER heard a fighter or trainer question him unlike Pac(Maliggnaggi,Byrd,Atlas and more if you read between lines)

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                  • D4thincarnation
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by john l
                    He was the 1st fighter to ask for testing and im not sure VADA was even going at that point in 2010.Also his career went the way it should for a clean fighter when he moved up he lost speed and power and fought more defensive because of it.Thats why you have NEVER heard a fighter or trainer question him unlike Pac(Maliggnaggi,Byrd,Atlas and more if you read between lines)

                    So that is a no then for Floyd.

                    And tests in such a small window allows of usage of PEDS for the rest of the year.


                    So Pacquiao performance and ability was so good that people assumed he was using.

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                    • KTFOKING
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      An article or something.


                      It has nothing to do with the fighters. Pacquiao and bradley both agreed to vada in their second fight but the nsac didn’t want it and proposed their own intensified random testing program. That’s more than likely what is happening here.

                      Additionally, Nevada did not subject either fighter to any random drug tests during their two-to-four month training camps.
                      You're right, thought they had random testing administered under NSAC for that fight.

                      But I'm probably thinking of Marquez vs Bradley.

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