Can Demetrius Andrade's Resume Get Some More Credit? (Knowledgeable Boxing Fans Only)

[GhostofDempsey]

I still want to know why he never fought either Charlo at 154, and now that he is at 160, why he never mentions Jermall. We also don't hear Charlo calling out Andrade who is also a title holder. How have these two managed to avoid one another and not even call each other out in two weight classes now?

[DuckAdonis]

I'm not high on fox, but Sulecki, Culcay, Vanes and Nelson are good underrated boxers to have on your resume

[JERMELL_CHARLO_]

His resume is getting better.

[Boxing_1013]

This thread is about his resume tho, do you feel it's better, worse, or accurate among the general consensus?

I always thought Charlo's win over J rock was under appreciated. It's one of those were people question if you can beat him, then after you do they literally say he was nobody anyway. Because that's what happened. J rock has good skills. If you actually go back & look at the betting lines it was 50-50 as it gets. Boxing fans are fickle tho. 1 loss don't make you a bad fighter & J rock spoke on that after his Hurd win. I always gave him credit for the win especially because I thought J rock was gonna beat him. But at the time people were accusing Jermall of ducking J rock. He was struggling to make weight, wanted to leave 154, & almost didn't make weight to even defend the belt that last time.

Regardless Fox is still not an easy fight for the intangibles I spoke about. I think Fox is an avoided fighter by the people who are trying to be elite like himself. Nobodys gonna wanna fight a 6'5 Middleweight.

I think Culcay's performance against Andrade had more to do with Andrade than what Culcay was doing. I always maintained that since I saw it. From about round 5 or 6 Andrade was winning, but I said to myself this isn't the Andrade I'm used to seeing & Culcay did nothing, it's not like he was neutralizing, it was just Andrade wasn't his normal self. Come to find out later he was sick in Germany.

Now with Andrade's latest performance. You can see he's the truth like I told you. 😏😏

On the bolded part...I hate that...maybe my biggest pet peeve in boxing...I always rate a guy's win by expectations going into the fight, and also how impressive he was in the fight.

I will say I knew nothing about Jrock going into that fight...but I know he was getting a lot of hype going into the fight...to me it almost felt like JRock (maybe mainly his trainer) had talked himself into that fight and hyped himself up to be more than he was...but either way it was really hard to rate that win at the time because JRock had never been in with anyone else.

Someone could still nitpick and slight Jermall's win over Jrock a bit...and point out that it was just too much too soon for JRock (similar to Lubin vs Jermell)...and he got stopped because of inexperience rather than skill...but I still think those wins over JRock and Lubin are really good wins.

(Lubin for me is probably like JRock for you - I always have rated him high, and thought he would outbox Jermell as long as it lasted - I just didn't think it would last so short!! :0 lol). So even though Lubin hasn't really stepped up yet before or since, I still rate him and rate that win for Jermell.

I would definitely give Andrade a chance against anyone around 160. He is big, awkward, athletic and hard to look good against. You can see why he was a great amateur - he knows how to leave you with the feeling that he won a round, even if there wasn't a ton of action in it.

Was definitely impressed by how easily he beat Sulecki. I think I gave Sulecki 1 round through nine and stopped scoring after that. Just a very clear win for Boo Boo.

I do wonder how well Andrade will do against a bigger puncher...I haven't seen him in with anyone like that yet...and I wonder how he will deal with the pressure/punching power in a fight like that...as clearly as he beat Sulecki, I just kept wanting to see more offense from him in that fight...just a lot of rounds with not a ton of action either way.

But yeah definitely a great win man...I know you are happy about that one :0 cong****, sincerely.

Hope he can get in there with a bigger name soon...unfortunately he may get avoided...having the WBO belt should help him attract some good names though! I would like to see him in with GGG...especially if GGG can't get Canelo. Andrade-GGG seems easier to make than Charlo-GGG...but wouldn't mind any of those guys mixing it up...or even them mixing it up with some guys at 168.

Who do you think will happen for Andrade next?

[daggum]

i'd like to pretend he has a good resume as well

[Boxing_1013]

I still want to know why he never fought either Charlo at 154, and now that he is at 160, why he never mentions Jermall. We also don't hear Charlo calling out Andrade who is also a title holder. How have these two managed to avoid one another and not even call each other out in two weight classes now?

Man I hated that...out of both Charlos, Andrade, Canelo, and Lara there should have been about 9 good fights among those guys..instead all we got was Canelo-Lara...not seeing those guys mix it up when they were top 5 in that division was frustrating for sure.

Not sure who was to blame but yeah it was disappointing....everyone just wants to protect that 0 nowadays...Lara I think would have fought any of them but I rated him the best at that weight and I think he was a bit avoided (I do think Canelo edged him in that fight though...I thought Lara didn't raise his level at the end of the fight and Canelo did, and took the last few rounds.) Canelo was kind of in his own weight class then anyway I guess.

[Htown-Finest]

[QUOTE=MPDKSAB;19872415]This thread is about his resume tho, do you feel it's better, worse, or accurate among the general consensus?

Accurate resume. Although should be better
He’s gonna get what’s he’s been asking for with DAZN. Probably why he so excited

[R_Walken]

So he should at some Credit for his resume because he’s 30+ / has Elite Level Talent and I think so far his entire Career has consisted of Fighting 1 past/Current/ Past World Champ

Culcay who is just 1 Of those all to common German fighters that stays at home and picks up the scrap heap Belts.

F.uck man come on. That’s sh.it . Most of it was the Minor League team he originally signed with who had no real clout in the game and couldn’t get him any notable fights / But Some Of it is because his own Actions

But he decided who to sign with them and at the end of the day its his fault / But his resume is trash and especially for a 2 Time Champ

[MPDKSAB]

I still want to know why he never fought either Charlo at 154, and now that he is at 160, why he never mentions Jermall. We also don't hear Charlo calling out Andrade who is also a title holder. How have these two managed to avoid one another and not even call each other out in two weight classes now?

Your comment actually made me forgot I included the tweet, I was gonna add that in my comment too. 😂 You didn't read the tweet Andrade sent to Jermall? I believe that tweet more now than I did then because he literally did the same thing for GGG. You see who GGG fought in June & now GGG allegedly isn't fighting Canelo but Munguia in September. WhI checked leads me to think Andrade is telling the truth. He didn't fight Jermell because of the Roc Nation ordeal/bad business. They both say they would fight each other when asked but deep down I don't think Jermall wants to fight Andrade. He'll fight him if he has too but don't really want too. Andrade now, is talking Canelo & GGG cause they're on Dazn. But I can find evidence of him calling out anybody with a name whether they're a big draw or not. I've only seen Jermall do that for Canelo & GGG. Basically he never goes out of his way to mention Andrade. Andrade said something about mentioning him after that fight he had against Centeno. Jermall didn’t say anything.

Again after this fight he never said anything about Andrade but he mentioned Canelo. When Andrade & the Charlo's got into in the hallway they telling him "stay broke." I could even say more things but long story short the energy is different for Andrade & that's for all these fighters in & around his weight.

On the bolded part...I hate that...maybe my biggest pet peeve in boxing...I always rate a guy's win by expectations going into the fight, and also how impressive he was in the fight.

I will say I knew nothing about Jrock going into that fight...but I know he was getting a lot of hype going into the fight...to me it almost felt like JRock (maybe mainly his trainer) had talked himself into that fight and hyped himself up to be more than he was...but either way it was really hard to rate that win at the time because JRock had never been in with anyone else.

Someone could still nitpick and slight Jermall's win over Jrock a bit...and point out that it was just too much too soon for JRock (similar to Lubin vs Jermell)...and he got stopped because of inexperience rather than skill...but I still think those wins over JRock and Lubin are really good wins.

(Lubin for me is probably like JRock for you - I always have rated him high, and thought he would outbox Jermell as long as it lasted - I just didn't think it would last so short!! :0 lol). So even though Lubin hasn't really stepped up yet before or since, I still rate him and rate that win for Jermell.

I would definitely give Andrade a chance against anyone around 160. He is big, awkward, athletic and hard to look good against. You can see why he was a great amateur - he knows how to leave you with the feeling that he won a round, even if there wasn't a ton of action in it.

Was definitely impressed by how easily he beat Sulecki. I think I gave Sulecki 1 round through nine and stopped scoring after that. Just a very clear win for Boo Boo.

I do wonder how well Andrade will do against a bigger puncher...I haven't seen him in with anyone like that yet...and I wonder how he will deal with the pressure/punching power in a fight like that...as clearly as he beat Sulecki, I just kept wanting to see more offense from him in that fight...just a lot of rounds with not a ton of action either way.

But yeah definitely a great win man...I know you are happy about that one :0 cong****, sincerely.

Hope he can get in there with a bigger name soon...unfortunately he may get avoided...having the WBO belt should help him attract some good names though! I would like to see him in with GGG...especially if GGG can't get Canelo. Andrade-GGG seems easier to make than Charlo-GGG...but wouldn't mind any of those guys mixing it up...or even them mixing it up with some guys at 168.

Who do you think will happen for Andrade next?

The Lubin win they discredit as well. Lubin just got caught, it could happen to anybody. Sometimes that's what happens in boxing.

They not gonna appreciate Andrade until he does it to Canelo & GGG. I think GGG is gonna make Andrade look very good but I want that fight sooner rather than later because I don't want excuses about how GGG is old. Especially since a lot of people still feel GGG can beat Andrade. But GGG don't want it. I honestly don't know who's next. Too hard to find names that want him. I just don't want Andrade to get flack for it, people not blaming the other guys enough.

So he should at some Credit for his resume because he’s 30+ / has Elite Level Talent and I think so far his entire Career has consisted of Fighting 1 past/Current/ Past World Champ

Culcay who is just 1 Of those all to common German fighters that stays at home and picks up the scrap heap Belts.

F.uck man come on. That’s sh.it . Most of it was the Minor League team he originally signed with who had no real clout in the game and couldn’t get him any notable fights / But Some Of it is because his own Actions

But he decided who to sign with them and at the end of the day its his fault / But his resume is trash and especially for a 2 Time Champ

His resume is better than its given credit for.

[Boxing_1013]

The Lubin win they discredit as well. Lubin just got caught, it could happen to anybody. Sometimes that's what happens in boxing.

They not gonna appreciate Andrade until he does it to Canelo & GGG. I think GGG is gonna make Andrade look very good but I want that fight sooner rather than later because I don't want excuses about how GGG is old. Especially since a lot of people still feel GGG can beat Andrade. But GGG don't want it. I honestly don't know who's next. Too hard to find names that want him. I just don't want Andrade to get flack for it, people not blaming the other guys enough.

I would favor GGG but I would definitely like to see it!...Andrade would be a challenge for sure though...I just think it will be a big step up for Andrade in skill and pressure/punching power and tbh I am not completely sold on his chin yet.

Sucks how politics takes over these divisions sometimes...we never really get to see the fights we want...and sometimes it's a guessing game over who is really to blame...sometimes both sides probably, if each guy can get similar money to take a smaller risk...but yeah with Jacobs/Andrade/Canelo/GGG with DAZN they should be mixing it up soon I hope!