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They banned your boy, thought I wasn't gon be able to make this thread, butu know I had to make my highly anticipated return. 😆
(In all seriousness let's get down to business) No I'm not saying he has the best resume or even close. I just think some wins are better than given credit for
His best wins are:
Vanes
Willie Nelson
Alantez Fox
Culcay
Hard to say for sure of the order. I think styles make fights & possibly Culcay & Fox could beat Vanes. But there's a lot of intangibles I just wanna focus on these four & provide context.
Vanes beat Willie Nelson who KO'd Tony Harrison who just beat (& I believe legitimately beat) Jermell Charlo. There were close rounds tho, I could also see a draw but I personally thought Tony won. Which means Vanes coulda been a world champion. Vanes lost a close fight to Jermell Charlo that he personally &, I've heard others maintain that he's won till this day. I personally thought Charlo won 6-4. Vanes KD Demetrius Andrade but Demetrius clearly won this fight. (& for anyone trying to pretend the SD was feasible clearly didn't watch the fight) He also beat him better than Charlo albeit he had 2 more rounds in his fight to work with. Vanes also admitted defeat to Andrade in the post fight interview of the Charlo fight but said he didn’t lose to Charlo.
Willie Nelson as I just mentioned KO'd Tony Harrison who just beat (& I believe legitimately beat) Jermell Charlo. Which again means he also coulda been a world champion. He also beat the guy (Jackson) who was out-boxing Charlo in his vacant title win for the whole fight until he decided not to protect himself at all times & got KO'd. Albeit I didn't watch Nelson-Jackson so idk if the decision was justifiable or not but he got the win on paper. & Demetrius Andrade KO'd Nelson in a statement performance.
Alantez Fox. I know he doesn't have any notable wins or performances even; I think, but this is definitely a fight Andrade deserves more credit for. 6'5 79 inch reach advantage, the biggest Middleweight recorded in history until proven otherwise at this point. Andrade fought him in his 1st fight in this weight class. Fox had every physical advantage going in. Andrade only rehydrated to 167 btw. I don't think you can name me 1 fighter (who doesn't hold an IBF belt) that rehydrates under 10lbs after the weigh-in. & mind you that's only the morning after for IBF belt holders. Meaning they exceed that 10lb weight by the time they actually fight. I don't think people understand. & For those who don't understand how boxing/matchmaking works, that's not a fight you want someone (in this case Andrade) taking while they're on the cusp of bigger fights. Or if you're building a star that's not a fight you give them until the risk is worth the reward. GBP would have never put 21-24 yr old Canelo in with 23-27 yr old amateur standout Demetrius Andrade. Shlt you see how Lara had to go about getting the Canelo fight. Fox is someone (like Andrade) that you don't fight if you don't have to. Fox needs to prove himself before fighting the current belt holders of the division but ask yourself do you think Lemeiux, Murata, or BJS would fight him? See my point. Shlt Fox even claims Ronnie Shields doesn't want Charlo to fight him:
I personally think Charlo would KO him so I take this with a grain of salt. BUT this also isn't the 1st time something like this has been claimed of Charlo/Shields:
Ronnie Shields has denied this ☝ but you be the judge of what you believe. Two different sources saying similar things. But I say all that to say this Andrade deserves more credit for fighting the biggest Middleweight in history in his 1st fight in the division point blank period.
Culcay. I think Andrade had his worst notable performance in this fight, but he still won clearly. Culcay is fresh off going life & death with Derevyanchenko. Derevyanchenko is revered amongst "hardcores." I understand why GGG didn't want to fight him from a match up standpoint but I also think Sergiy is overrated. Haters of Andrade were claiming Andrade ducked Sergiy. I know styles make fights but we can clearly see Andrade not even on his best night in Germany beat him better than Derevyanchenko beat him. I'm sure there's people who believe Culcay beat Sergiy btw. Also.. people are saying Andrade's next opponent Sulecki is the best of his career. I never seen the Culcay-Sulecki fight. But I've heard murmurs of people believing Culcay won that as well.
All in all I just wanted to provide context that Andrade's resume deserves a lil more credit than it has. I wonder what people will say if he dominates Sulecki? 🤔
(In all seriousness let's get down to business) No I'm not saying he has the best resume or even close. I just think some wins are better than given credit for
His best wins are:
Vanes
Willie Nelson
Alantez Fox
Culcay
Hard to say for sure of the order. I think styles make fights & possibly Culcay & Fox could beat Vanes. But there's a lot of intangibles I just wanna focus on these four & provide context.
Vanes beat Willie Nelson who KO'd Tony Harrison who just beat (& I believe legitimately beat) Jermell Charlo. There were close rounds tho, I could also see a draw but I personally thought Tony won. Which means Vanes coulda been a world champion. Vanes lost a close fight to Jermell Charlo that he personally &, I've heard others maintain that he's won till this day. I personally thought Charlo won 6-4. Vanes KD Demetrius Andrade but Demetrius clearly won this fight. (& for anyone trying to pretend the SD was feasible clearly didn't watch the fight) He also beat him better than Charlo albeit he had 2 more rounds in his fight to work with. Vanes also admitted defeat to Andrade in the post fight interview of the Charlo fight but said he didn’t lose to Charlo.
Willie Nelson as I just mentioned KO'd Tony Harrison who just beat (& I believe legitimately beat) Jermell Charlo. Which again means he also coulda been a world champion. He also beat the guy (Jackson) who was out-boxing Charlo in his vacant title win for the whole fight until he decided not to protect himself at all times & got KO'd. Albeit I didn't watch Nelson-Jackson so idk if the decision was justifiable or not but he got the win on paper. & Demetrius Andrade KO'd Nelson in a statement performance.
Alantez Fox. I know he doesn't have any notable wins or performances even; I think, but this is definitely a fight Andrade deserves more credit for. 6'5 79 inch reach advantage, the biggest Middleweight recorded in history until proven otherwise at this point. Andrade fought him in his 1st fight in this weight class. Fox had every physical advantage going in. Andrade only rehydrated to 167 btw. I don't think you can name me 1 fighter (who doesn't hold an IBF belt) that rehydrates under 10lbs after the weigh-in. & mind you that's only the morning after for IBF belt holders. Meaning they exceed that 10lb weight by the time they actually fight. I don't think people understand. & For those who don't understand how boxing/matchmaking works, that's not a fight you want someone (in this case Andrade) taking while they're on the cusp of bigger fights. Or if you're building a star that's not a fight you give them until the risk is worth the reward. GBP would have never put 21-24 yr old Canelo in with 23-27 yr old amateur standout Demetrius Andrade. Shlt you see how Lara had to go about getting the Canelo fight. Fox is someone (like Andrade) that you don't fight if you don't have to. Fox needs to prove himself before fighting the current belt holders of the division but ask yourself do you think Lemeiux, Murata, or BJS would fight him? See my point. Shlt Fox even claims Ronnie Shields doesn't want Charlo to fight him:
Another person that wouldn’t take a fight with me. Ronnie Shields told me and my dad over breakfast that he wouldn’t put either of them in the ring with me.
— The Giant Negus (@SlyAzaFox) June 18, 2019
I personally think Charlo would KO him so I take this with a grain of salt. BUT this also isn't the 1st time something like this has been claimed of Charlo/Shields:
I never talk about the frustrating behind the scenes stuff, but I challenged @FutureOfBoxing way before he had an opponent for April. My team was told that AL Haymon approved the fight but JERMALL CHARLO and Ronnie Shields didn’t want to fight me! #truth 💯
— Demetrius Andrade (@BooBooAndrade) April 6, 2018
Ronnie Shields has denied this ☝ but you be the judge of what you believe. Two different sources saying similar things. But I say all that to say this Andrade deserves more credit for fighting the biggest Middleweight in history in his 1st fight in the division point blank period.
Culcay. I think Andrade had his worst notable performance in this fight, but he still won clearly. Culcay is fresh off going life & death with Derevyanchenko. Derevyanchenko is revered amongst "hardcores." I understand why GGG didn't want to fight him from a match up standpoint but I also think Sergiy is overrated. Haters of Andrade were claiming Andrade ducked Sergiy. I know styles make fights but we can clearly see Andrade not even on his best night in Germany beat him better than Derevyanchenko beat him. I'm sure there's people who believe Culcay beat Sergiy btw. Also.. people are saying Andrade's next opponent Sulecki is the best of his career. I never seen the Culcay-Sulecki fight. But I've heard murmurs of people believing Culcay won that as well.
All in all I just wanted to provide context that Andrade's resume deserves a lil more credit than it has. I wonder what people will say if he dominates Sulecki? 🤔
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