Does Big Baby Miller deserve a comeback?

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  • 'b'
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    #11
    Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
    Ortiz and Povetkin came back, so why not Big Baby Miller?

    Interviews show Ruiz is interested in this fight. But Miller needs to build himself back up and prove that he can pass the tests. Two or three clean fights to restore his reputation. If he does that, he's in a good position. I see Ruiz defeating AJ in the rematch, and making some title defenses in Cali or Mexico. I don't see Wilder fighting Miller because he has a bad history with Povetkin and doesn't trust Miller. The most likely fight to happen is Ruiz vs. Miller in California.
    Your name is Deontay Wilder and you left out Tyson Fury? He was given the red carpet after coming back, but I guess people forgot he tested positive for a banned substance because of his sob story...

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      #12
      Originally posted by 'b'
      Your name is Deontay Wilder and you left out Tyson Fury? He was given the red carpet after coming back, but I guess people forgot he tested positive for a banned substance because of his sob story...
      100% he didn't feel comfortable about the Klitschko rematch, knowing that Wladimir was going to come back stronger.

      Dillian Whyte got busted too in 2012.

      There's a lot of names we could mention, but whether it's right or wrong, the reality is most cheaters come back. The public demands the fights, and the sport keeps moving forward.

      Anyway, Wilder got this man figured out now. The timing and distance will be on point in the rematch. Early rounds, I see Wilder piercing through Fury's defense and hurting him badly. He'll try to get up and fight back, but this time he won't recover. A hard loss for a man with so much pride. Maybe that's what it will take for him to finally retire. Not a drug ban, but a shocking and humiliating loss.

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      • Ray*
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        #13
        This is boxing, the dirtiest sport IMHO. People forget that you are a cheater within a week or so.

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          #14
          Sure but he should be subject to random testing for the rest of his career. As long as you have active fighters with more than one strike already, how can you possibly ban a fighter with one strike?

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            #15
            The sad part is, not many really cared for him before the AJ fight...so, failed tests and a suspension moves him further and further away from relevancy...or people simply giving him a chance in the division.

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              #16
              Who's been banned for using PED's? Hell who's even been banned 2yrs for PEDs? MMA bans cats for 2yrs all the time. I can't think of anyone in boxing that got 2yrs suspension.

              So sure why not. Boxing don't care. The fans don't care THAT much. And the boxers who gotta deal with PED cheaters face to face don't even seem to mind if they are being paid well enough although they will use your PED past *******ly in the fight promotion quite often I feel like. Kinda gives them a win win situation too. If I beat him I'm a bad mfer cuz I beat a PED'd up mfer. And if I lose I lost to a PED'd up guy so is it reallllllly an L.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Who's been banned for using PED's? Hell who's even been banned 2yrs for PEDs? MMA bans cats for 2yrs all the time. I can't think of anyone in boxing that got 2yrs suspension.

                So sure why not. Boxing don't care. The fans don't care THAT much. And the boxers who gotta deal with PED cheaters face to face don't even seem to mind if they are being paid well enough although they will use your PED past *******ly in the fight promotion quite often I feel like. Kinda gives them a win win situation too. If I beat him I'm a bad mfer cuz I beat a PED'd up mfer. And if I lose I lost to a PED'd up guy so is it reallllllly an L.
                I love the MMA two years ban thing, but that’s because USADA are involved and have the power to enforce a ban. Hopefully VADA would be given the same sort of power in boxing. I doubt it doe

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  I love the MMA two years ban thing, but that’s because USADA are involved and have the power to enforce a ban. Hopefully VADA would be given the same sort of power in boxing. I doubt it doe
                  100% with you. Its a lil f#cking nuts when a big name guy gets dropkicked into nowhere for 2 years (like TJ recently), but if you are seriously trying to make a impact on PED usage in your sport thats the type of punishments that need to be handed down.

                  And yea right there with you on VADA or the USADA or f#cking someone being able to run the PED program in boxing as they see fit & come up with their own suspension protocol so there is no guessing games or name value playing into things as they often do in boxing.

                  The JBJ thing is the main thing that has me wondering if maybe things are changing in the UFC, but I also think this PED thing is a lot more sketchy & up in the air then people wanna believe sometimes. Although I don't love that a f#ckhead like JBJ is being the canary in the coalmine of letting a guy get away with still popping dirty with this loophole he's in. I legit wanna say you get an x suspension, but if you are still popping dirty for something after your suspension is up thats on you're PED taking ass & we aren't gonna let you fight.

                  But as long as this is a loophole they use with more & more guys fair play...although I don't know if thats being the case cuz Sean O'Malley just popped for the same thing he had in a supplement awhile back & it seems like he's still suspended now or will be. Idk the whole science of the picograms or w/e, but idk why Sean is out now & JBJ was a go fight week when he tested dirty outside of the obvious reasons.

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                    #19
                    Tyson Fury and Canelo both got off easy. Seems like it's only fair Big Baby does too.

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                    • R_Walken
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                      #20
                      2x Ped Cheat

                      Recent one the most blatant I can remember

                      It should be a min 5 year Ban

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