Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Thurman: No VADA Testing In Place for July 20 PPV Event

[Roadblock]

After whats gone down over the years with Manny and Peds this is very su****ious in a big fight like this, I dont know why Keith agreed to it he must of been pressured to sign if he really wants the fight.

Roach said the other day same old Manny coming in this fight, now it makes sense.

[IceTrayDaGang]

i called it in 2018!! i knew this was gonna happen! i even made a thread on it!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=795487

[IceTrayDaGang]

After whats gone down over the years with Manny and Peds this is very su****ious in a big fight like this, I dont know why Keith agreed to it he must of been pressured to sign if he really wants the fight.

Roach said the other day same old Manny coming in this fight, now it makes sense.

but PBC is the one promoting this fight lol!! so al haymon pressured thurman into signing?

[Dle]

PAC will definitely need the PEDS on this one and if he loses, then it’s definitely time to hang ‘em up

[travestyny]

You are flat out making this **** up. One, WADA has no bearing on boxing. Two, the only time WADA would have authority over any sport is when the sanctioning body of said sport contracts with WADA as with Pro Cycling or the Olympics. Three, boxing has no central sanctioning body or jack **** to do with WADA. Four, when Mayweather brought in USADA, he paid them directly himself and they reported to GBP.

Now the reason USADA is actually doing their job in the UFC is because they worked out a deal with Jeff Novitsky, the ex-FDA agent who tried and failed at taking down Lance Armstrong. Novitsky now works for the UFC and he is more or less the regulator with USADA.

The obvious difference between USADA then and now is that now they follow their own damns rules for once and BAN for IV use unlike then, when they took a 135K bribe from Mayweather and gave him a BS TUE for IV use.

Why would USADA BAN BJ Penn for using an IV out of season, but give Mayweather a TUE for the same thing the night before the fight?

It's clear you have a serious lack of knowledge in this area...

I've already explained this. The fact that you couldn't understand it says that you have the serious lack of knowledge here.


1. I stated specifically,AND GAVE A STATEMENT FROM A WADA SPOKESPERSON, that WADA was not involved with the fight. If you would have read carefully, you would have seen that I stated that USADA was required to follow he WADA Protocol because it is a signatory of WADA. If that's too difficult for you to understand, let me know. Here is the quotation once again.

WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE can be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that would be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative. However, the spokesperson added: “This case is not one that is monitored by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code. We understand that USADA was contracted to conduct the anti-doping program for this fight, however.”

https://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/usada-defends-its-action-over-mayweather-iv-tue/

If you knew how to read properly, you would have seen that in one of my earlier posts.

2. You completely missed the point. If there were some sort of conspiracy for USADA to help Mayweather, they would also have to reconcile the results of the drug tests being sent from the independent WADA lab directly to WADA. If WADA is privy to USADA acting in a criminal way, what do you think happens to USADA?

And again, if you knew how to read properly, you would have seen where this was confirmed by USADA themselves regarding the Erik Morales drug failure. I'll post it for you again, since apparently you had some difficulty. Oh, and by the way, it also makes clear that he results are sent to the state athletic commission.

By [October 18th, 2012], both fighters, the promoter, and the New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC) had already all been advised by USADA of Mr. Morales' positive test. The results had also already been reported to WADA by sample number directly by the laboratory.

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf

Do you see right there where it says EXACTLY what I stated???? That the state athletic commission is also contacted, and that the labs report the findings directly to WADA?


And the point...since apparently you can't put 1 and 1 together to make 2, is how is USADA hiding positive tests if the independent lab is sending all results directly to WADA? I'll let you try to explain that to me, genius.


Now the next time you want to butt into someone's conversation acting like you actually know something, sit your ass down, learn to read, and then educate yourself.

[Jab jab boom]

The fact you really believe that fight didn't get made for six years because of blood tests...considering the bounty of quotes that show the actual reasons why..ego and hatred.

there were multiple factors for the fight not happening but the initial one was pac refusing testing. The fight was agreed upon in all aspects shortly after pac beat Cotto, and the 1 factor that held up that fight deal was pacs refusal to go through with consistent testing. Once that fight deal fell through, multiple others factors came into play in the yrs afterwards. Bottom line, there is no reason why pac, being the A side that he is, shouldn't be insisting on testing. Unless he has something to hide.

[pillowfists98]

40+ fighters should get to use PED's to level the playing field. Like Thurman said "let Pacquiao take whatever the **** he wants!"

[travestyny]

As for the rest of your drivel.....

Now the reason USADA is actually doing their job in the UFC is because they worked out a deal with Jeff Novitsky, the ex-FDA agent who tried and failed at taking down Lance Armstrong. Novitsky now works for the UFC and he is more or less the regulator with USADA.

The obvious difference between USADA then and now is that now they follow their own damns rules for once and BAN for IV use unlike then, when they took a 135K bribe from Mayweather and gave him a BS TUE for IV use.

Oh really? Do you have any proof of this bribe? Please explain to me how this conspiracy theory worked. Explain the logic behind helping Mayweather to cheat by giving him an IV full of IV fluid which is not in itself a prohibited substance and thus would have gone completely undetected, and then thinking it's a good idea to tell the world about a fake TUE so that you are forced to bring in 3 independent doctors to examine a TUE application that goes on file with WADA. That's right. Let's just create a papertrail of this crime. Not to mention that we're going to take your urine sample that has to stand up against the athlete biological passport and ship it on over full of dirty drugs to the lab. Oh, but wait. We helped you infuse 750ml of saline (less than is given to cure a hangover)...and the big deal is that could (hopefully if we get it right...if not, we'll both burn together) dilute your sample enough so that the drugs you took are undetectable. Oh...but wait...the DCO is required to test your urine sample to make sure it's not diluted, and then the independent lab double checks it. Oops.

Not to mention a sample being taken from before and after the IV, but yea, please explain to me this conspiracy theory so I can get a good laugh. Let's see what you know.

Why would USADA BAN BJ Penn for using an IV out of season, but give Mayweather a TUE for the same thing the night before the fight?

Because BJ Penn didn't declare the IV to them at all, while Mayweather was in their presence BEFORE the IV was requested. And of course it was the night before the fight. When are athletes looking to rehydrate? Wouldn't that be after the weigh-in, being that they have to make weight??? Have you actually thought about any of this?

It's clear you have a serious lack of knowledge in this area...

Come back and let me know what you've learned. If you need further assistance, I'm here t teach you.

[dirty fingers]

Good. I want these dudes in beast mode. I don't want another bull**** decision fight. They should go bareknuckle too.

[WholeSoul75]

People believing pac is dirty and pac doesn't give a damn to clear his image. Straight Savage! Hahaha