Comments Thread For: Roach: Thurman 'Terrible' In Last Fight; Will Run From Pacquiao

[Roadblock]

A, B and C theory? Just like Ali went life and death 3 times with Frazier, Foreman almost killed Frazier twice and Ali brutally KO’d Foreman.

Is it also a coincidence that Pac’s prime was also during the time where he became a politician, singer, movie star and change his religion? Politics alone will take its toll on any fighter, how much more when he juggles between boxing, politics, singing, acting and religion. Boxers like Pac, Marquez, Cotto, GGG, Loma, Rigo, Chocolatito just to name a few didn’t get the recognition they deserve because they’re not from here.

Poor analogy, Ali was bashed and waited till Foreman blew himself out from punching him and they HWs not like the skills speed and power to weight ratio of LW to WW, its different boxing and not the same as the nip and tuck wars Manny and JMM had , nothing in common at all with Ali Foreman.

[Bluebird]

Poor analogy, Ali was bashed and waited till Foreman blew himself out from punching him and they HWs not like the skills speed and power to weight ratio of LW to WW, its different boxing and not the same as the nip and tuck wars Manny and JMM had , nothing in common at all with Ali Foreman.

Ali knocked Foreman out because he was way smarter than Foreman, period.

I was talking about A, B, and C theory here, weight class is irrelevant to the topic. Pac and Marquez are the modern day version of Ali and Frazier, weight class set aside.

[hugh grant]

Pac has had great accomplishments, yes, but when you consider he went life and death 3 times with JMM, and got KTFO in their 4th meeting, it speaks volumes when Floyd shut out and toyed with JMM during that time.

Where do I start with this logic, it's so wrong I shouldn't even attempt to make sense of this.

What is wrong with going life and death with jmm 3 times?.He has 3 wins over jmm. Jmm does very well against pac, and if jmm did as well against Pac as Pac did with everyone from cotto, hatton, margarito, morales, prime barrera, Bradley x3 - then jmm might go down in history as great as pac.e

You saying as Pac struggled with jmm he can't be that great? Srr lost to turpin. Lets imagine turpin didn't rematch srr would turpi n be greater, and srr not that good even with srr insane resume?
What has floyd s win over jmm got to do with anything? Floyd cheated scales. Foreman knocked Frasier so foreman greater than Ali is he? You can't go with triangles theories. Pac koed Hatton in 2, so Floyd s win over Hatton isn't ageing well is it, nor is Floyd s win over dlh. Pac wouldn't go life and death with Madiana or Castillo also. I could go on and on.

Nothing you said makes any sense or has any relevance and can't be applied to any serious discussion

[IceTrayDaGang]

Pac has had great accomplishments, yes, but when you consider he went life and death 3 times with JMM, and got KTFO in their 4th meeting, it speaks volumes when Floyd shut out and toyed with JMM during that time.

Is it a coincidence that Pac's prime was also during the time where he refused any random testing, giving bogus excuses why he couldn't or shouldn't?

yeah, and marquez is an ATG himself!!! why do you act like marquez is some bum that manny went life and death with 3 times???!!! and just because floyd beat marquez easier doesnt mean he's greater.

if you wanna base it on how they performed against the same fighters then manny outdid floyd against hatton, cotto and oscar!!!!! that's 3 to 1. so floyd only did better against marquez. see what i mean, watch how you gon come back and say that doesnt count anymore lol!!!!

[pasawayako]

Pac has had great accomplishments, yes, but when you consider he went life and death 3 times with JMM, and got KTFO in their 4th meeting, it speaks volumes when Floyd shut out and toyed with JMM during that time.

Is it a coincidence that Pac's prime was also during the time where he refused any random testing, giving bogus excuses why he couldn't or shouldn't?

Lol. Floyd went life and death with the likes of maidana and castillo. lmao.

Is it also a coincindence that floyd during his prime he had an abnormal level of testosterone and an alleged 3x failed test that sweep under the rags.

[JWHardin]

yeah, and marquez is an ATG himself!!! why do you act like marquez is some bum that manny went life and death with 3 times???!!! and just because floyd beat marquez easier doesnt mean he's greater.

if you wanna base it on how they performed against the same fighters then manny outdid floyd against hatton, cotto and oscar!!!!! that's 3 to 1. so floyd only did better against marquez. see what i mean, watch how you gon come back and say that doesnt count anymore lol!!!!

Hatton had to drop 40+ pounds for the Pac fight, and he had already been beaten by Floyd, who took his 0.

DLH was a ghost trying to fight at a weight he had not been at in 7 yrs, and also, was previously beaten by Floyd, and weighed 165 for Floyd 1.5 yrs earlier fight night vs 147 fight night vs Pac.

Cotto was forced by Arum to take the fight at 145 vs Pac, or risk losing his belt. The catch weight king. Much like DLH, Floyd fought Cotto at 154, not 145 like Pac did.

[hugh grant]

Hatton had to drop 40+ pounds for the Pac fight, and he had already been beaten by Floyd, who took his 0.

DLH was a ghost trying to fight at a weight he had not been at in 7 yrs, and also, was previously beaten by Floyd, and weighed 165 for Floyd 1.5 yrs earlier fight night vs 147 fight night vs Pac.

Cotto was forced by Arum to take the fight at 145 vs Pac, or risk losing his belt. The catch weight king. Much like DLH, Floyd fought Cotto at 154, not 145 like Pac did.

We know the Hatton and dlh Pac fought were better than the ones Floyd fought. I mean if you aren't going to learn anything from having fought Floyd then your in wrong sport. So nelos not better now? Dlh said Pac was the best he fought. Dlh obviously would like to make excuses he wasn't 100% as Pac made him look bad and believe it or not dlh does care about his own legacy and doesn't want people to think Pac could do that to him in prime. Which is understandable. But that doesnt then mean you should then go into discredit Pac s win. Dlh thought he'd beat pac up until Pac landed first punch. So you going to discredit Floyd s win over pac, as Pac claimed he had bad shoulder?
But Hatton was never going to get far with Pac as he leads with face. But Floyd wouldn't ever ko any version of Hatton in 2 rounds. Even if Hatton hadn't trained for 2 years and came in ring 13 stone against floyd, Floyd would still take longer than 6 rounds even with ref help.
As for cotto everyone knows he wasn't going to be the same again after Pac fight.

[alohashirt]

Exactly!!! And that heavyweight was the Challenger and STILL got put on his @$$ twice smh *****e$ with delusional fanboyism. It's crazy

And that challenger still won 10 of 12 rounds yet didn’t get the decision.

[JWHardin]

We know the Hatton and dlh Pac fought were better than the ones Floyd fought. I mean if you aren't going to learn anything from having fought Floyd then your in wrong sport. So nelos not better now? Dlh said Pac was the best he fought. Dlh obviously would like to make excuses he wasn't 100% as Pac made him look bad and believe it or not dlh does care about his own legacy and doesn't want people to think Pac could do that to him in prime. Which is understandable. But that doesnt then mean you should then go into discredit Pac s win. Dlh thought he'd beat pac up until Pac landed first punch. So you going to discredit Floyd s win over pac, as Pac claimed he had bad shoulder?
But Hatton was never going to get far with Pac as he leads with face. But Floyd wouldn't ever ko any version of Hatton in 2 rounds. Even if Hatton hadn't trained for 2 years and came in ring 13 stone against floyd, Floyd would still take longer than 6 rounds even with ref help.
As for cotto everyone knows he wasn't going to be the same again after Pac fight.

OMG, you are an idiot *******. Go away.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Hatton had to drop 40+ pounds for the Pac fight, and he had already been beaten by Floyd, who took his 0.

DLH was a ghost trying to fight at a weight he had not been at in 7 yrs, and also, was previously beaten by Floyd, and weighed 165 for Floyd 1.5 yrs earlier fight night vs 147 fight night vs Pac.

Cotto was forced by Arum to take the fight at 145 vs Pac, or risk losing his belt. The catch weight king. Much like DLH, Floyd fought Cotto at 154, not 145 like Pac did.

excuses excuses!!! well then, floyd made marquez jumped up in weight and then floyd himself didnt even make weight!! there you go!! i can play your game too. do you really wanna go there? your comparison is flaw from the start so no matter how you try to wiggle your way out its not gonna work. if you wanna base it on who did better, manny did better against hatton, oscar and cotto!! and floyd cheated marquez on the scale going by your logic.