Eddie Hearn is no better then Arum. Regarding Miller

[champion4ever]

A promoter would promote anyone who can make them some money. That's their bottom line. They don't have any scruples, morals or integrity. If they did then they wouldn't be a promoter because promoters love money. When an fighter gets to the point where he can no longer make the promoter some money then he discards them.

[EnglishOxide]

But Eddie is trying to say nobody should work with Miller and essentially scolding Arum for doing it.

The same Eddie Hearn that tried to sign Fury when Fury was serving a two year ban and unlicensed because of it. Not to mention all the other fighters that previously tested positive that he works with. I use Fury as the example because he was in a similar position to Miller right now when Hearn tried to sign him. No different to Arum and Miller.

Nobody is saying Eddie is worse than Arum or vice-versa, but Hearn is the one being a hypocrite.

Context is important here.

It was only 8 weeks ago that Miller got busted. He failed four tests for three different substances. Substances which were significantly more hardcore than anything Fury, Galahad, Whyte, etc failed for.

When Hearn tried to sign Fury he had served 2 years out of the sport and the nandrolone accusation was still being contested/settled.

When he signed Galahad, he had served his suspension, just like Whyte. Both had claimed to have suffered from ignorance of over the counter supplements. Browne was the same, but had also served his time. Believable excuses.

With Povetkin, Hearn had no choice but to work with him, the WBA mandated him to fight Joshua after he served a ban. What's Hearn supposed to do, tell Joshua to vacate?

Arum is actively trying to pick up a drug cheat before he has even served his time (it's only been 8 weeks ffs). Hearn has never done something like that to my knowledge, he appears to be by far the more morally upstanding major promoter out there. Yet I see no topics of criticism of Warren, Arum or Haymon for working with drug cheats?

Why the hate on Hearn on this forum? He's the only one even trying to maintain a bit of integrity in the sport even though he's not pertect.

[rolshans]

Context is important here.

It was only 8 weeks ago that Miller got busted. He failed four tests for three different substances. Substances which were significantly more hardcore than anything Fury, Galahad, Whyte, etc failed for.

When Hearn tried to sign Fury he had served 2 years out of the sport and the nandrolone accusation was still being contested/settled.

When he signed Galahad, he had served his suspension, just like Whyte. Both had claimed to have suffered from ignorance of over the counter supplements. Browne was the same, but had also served his time. Believable excuses.

With Povetkin, Hearn had no choice but to work with him, the WBA mandated him to fight Joshua after he served a ban. What's Hearn supposed to do, tell Joshua to vacate?

Arum is actively trying to pick up a drug cheat before he has even served his time (it's only been 8 weeks ffs). Hearn has never done something like that to my knowledge, he appears to be by far the more morally upstanding major promoter out there. Yet I see no topics of criticism of Warren, Arum or Haymon for working with drug cheats?

Why the hate on Hearn on this forum? He's the only one even trying to maintain a bit of integrity in the sport even though he's not pertect.

Right on the money.

[Boksfan]

But Eddie is trying to say nobody should work with Miller and essentially scolding Arum for doing it.

The same Eddie Hearn that tried to sign Fury when Fury was serving a two year ban and unlicensed because of it. Not to mention all the other fighters that previously tested positive that he works with. I use Fury as the example because he was in a similar position to Miller right now when Hearn tried to sign him. No different to Arum and Miller.

Nobody is saying Eddie is worse than Arum or vice-versa, but Hearn is the one being a hypocrite.

You have problems understanding what Eddie said, he said when you cheat you should be punished, he never said he won't work with Miller again, all he said is that you must serve a ban as a punishment before you can come back to boxing.

It's ignorant of you to compare that to Fury who served his 2 years suspension before Eddie tried to sign him.

Eddie is saying you need to serve your ban before you should be back into game and he is right, some people call Eddie hypocrite out of hate even when he's doing the right thing.

[deathofaclown]

You have problems understanding what Eddie said, he said when you cheat you should be punished, he never said he won't work with Miller again, all he said is that you must serve a ban as a punishment before you can come back to boxing.

It's ignorant of you to compare that to Fury who served his 2 years suspension before Eddie tried to sign him.

Eddie is saying you need to serve your ban before you should be back into game and he is right, some people call Eddie hypocrite out of hate even when he's doing the right thing.

Fury hadn’t served his suspension.

Also, Hearn is also on record saying drugs cheats should be banned from the sport. If he genuinely believed that and felt THAT strongly about it saying they should be gone from the sport, he would stand by his morals and not work with any.

Hearn doesn’t care really. He says the right things because he has to. When it comes to putting money in his pocket, his words and morals go out the window. That’s absolutely fine but he should get off his high horse.

For the record i quite like Hearn but he’s a hypocrite in this situation. He’ll say the right things but it’s proven he will go against his words.

[MastaBlasta]

LOL funny to see that list cuz thats exactly why I didn't think Eddie would drop Big Baby. I was legit surprised Eddie sh^tcanned him.

Idk that Eddie is mad about it more than he's doing his usual media outrage sh^t thats meaningless. He's throwing shade on people daily like a 13 year old girl.

Agreed on all points. hearn is upset cause he probably lost some money in the changeover, then AJ lays an egg AND loses all his titles (i.e. hearns bargaining Ace in trying to manipulate boxing in general and the HW division specifically). LoL, he prolly blames all their troubles on Big Baby.

I thought Big Baby was gonna stop AJ anyway. I think that shove off the stage is still messing with AJ's mind ...

PS - I don't condone or appreciate Big Baby doing PEDS ... very disappointed and a bit angry at him.

[MastaBlasta]

Context is important here.

It was only 8 weeks ago that Miller got busted. He failed four tests for three different substances. Substances which were significantly more hardcore than anything Fury, Galahad, Whyte, etc failed for.

When Hearn tried to sign Fury he had served 2 years out of the sport and the nandrolone accusation was still being contested/settled.

When he signed Galahad, he had served his suspension, just like Whyte. Both had claimed to have suffered from ignorance of over the counter supplements. Browne was the same, but had also served his time. Believable excuses.

With Povetkin, Hearn had no choice but to work with him, the WBA mandated him to fight Joshua after he served a ban. What's Hearn supposed to do, tell Joshua to vacate?

Arum is actively trying to pick up a drug cheat before he has even served his time (it's only been 8 weeks ffs). Hearn has never done something like that to my knowledge, he appears to be by far the more morally upstanding major promoter out there. Yet I see no topics of criticism of Warren, Arum or Haymon for working with drug cheats?

Why the hate on Hearn on this forum? He's the only one even trying to maintain a bit of integrity in the sport even though he's not pertect.

So there are levels of right and wrong? Why bash hearn cause he didn't stoop to THAT level? LoL! Sad.

You can't call anyone out on morals and integrity and you regular break the code yourself ... at WHATEVER level.

Everyone's POINT is that hearn has continued to work with PED cheats ... so he can't get mad at anyone else for doing the same. And no, the level of offense doesn't matter when you're guilty of the same yourself.

[EnglishOxide]

So there are levels of right and wrong? Why bash hearn cause he didn't stoop to THAT level? LoL! Sad.
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Yes there are levels to right and wrong. If you are too dumb to process that then I don't know what to tell you. Most people will realise that by the time they're about 10 years old.

That's why a thief gets a slap on the wrist and a murderer gets a life sentence. Both wrong but on different levels.

I can't believe I'm having to explain this to you.

[DaNeutral.]

Context is important here.

It was only 8 weeks ago that Miller got busted. He failed four tests for three different substances. Substances which were significantly more hardcore than anything Fury, Galahad, Whyte, etc failed for.

When Hearn tried to sign Fury he had served 2 years out of the sport and the nandrolone accusation was still being contested/settled.

When he signed Galahad, he had served his suspension, just like Whyte. Both had claimed to have suffered from ignorance of over the counter supplements. Browne was the same, but had also served his time. Believable excuses.

With Povetkin, Hearn had no choice but to work with him, the WBA mandated him to fight Joshua after he served a ban. What's Hearn supposed to do, tell Joshua to vacate?

Arum is actively trying to pick up a drug cheat before he has even served his time (it's only been 8 weeks ffs). Hearn has never done something like that to my knowledge, he appears to be by far the more morally upstanding major promoter out there. Yet I see no topics of criticism of Warren, Arum or Haymon for working with drug cheats?

Why the hate on Hearn on this forum? He's the only one even trying to maintain a bit of integrity in the sport even though he's not pertect.

Context should be needed here and the major point is that Miller was busted but 8 weeks ago which is the whole point to Hearns problem with this.

However this is a hate, shill thread which is yet another anti Eddie Hearn thread and hate threads dont do context they do bias. So context just gets in the way. Its not that Miller is a drugs cheat it is the fact that Miller has ONLY JUST been busted as a drugs cheat.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Miller had already been busted for using PEDs when Hearn signed him originally. No one cared then and no one cares that Arum wants to sign him now.