How come US boxers (Champions) don’t like travelling?

[Sid-Knee]

Lol, you can't be serious.

I'm very serious. Stop with the deflection and give me a list. Then i'll come back with a whole list of corrupt fights in the US many times what you can name.

[saintpat]

What part of "It's not the miles, it's the environment the home fighter has" don't you understand?

There is no difference in a fighter being 400 miles away to being 4,000 miles away. If you're in your opponents backyard, you're in enemy territory. The miles don't even come into it.

Being in one end of your own country to another is not the same as being in another opponents country. Trying to cast it off as such is pathetic because it isn't even remotely close to being the same.

Boxing is a business. AJ didn’t come to the USA because he wanted the challenge of fighting in his opponent’s backyard or to enhance his legacy. He came here because his promoter thought it would help build him into an international star and open more doors for more $$$, especially PPV-level money (or, more for Eddie’s sake, dazn subscriptions).

I remember Chris Eubank talking about coming to America as a young fighter and not being able to hang in the gym even though he won a few 4-rounders of no consequence. He went back to the UK with his tail tucked between his legs. And had a great career over there ... but you didn’t see him venture over the Atlantic again — not to fight Roy Jones Jr or anyone else.

His conqueror, Steve Collins, also had his time in the USA and was rather pedestrian. When he went back to the UK his career took off. Softer touches overall and was able to build his record.

(Both those guys, btw, were ‘house fighters’ in the U.S. in that they weren’t fighting ‘in their opponent’s backyard’ because they were promoted by the people putting on the cards and picking opponents for them.)

Like I said, it’s a business. And when it makes dollars, it makes sense. Nobody in their right mind is going to wake up one day and say ‘I’m going to go fight some guy in his backyard’ unless he’s being compensated to do so ... anymore than a fighter from LA is going to go fight in Florida unless the money is right for the opponent offered. That’s all it comes down to.

If you want an American to go fight in Germany, offer him the right money or right (title) opportunity. A few guys ventured into Klitschko territory and came out with wins, but Ross Purity didn’t go to Kiev to prove he could fight abroad, he did it because he was paid well to do so.

Fighting in different geographic locations isn’t what makes a fighter great. Chauncey Welliver fought all over the world — U.S., Australia, China, Russia, UK, New Zealand, Japan, etc. — and won fights in numerous countries. I don’t see anyone calling him great for it. No more so than if he had ended up with the same record fighting only in Australia or only in England.

What makes a fighter great is beating the best around. Doesn’t matter where. Wilder knocked Audrey Harrison senseless in England but if he had fought the same guy in Alabama it wouldn’t enhance his resume any more. He also fought a few early pro fights in Mexico. So what?

I will say this: Wilder got experience in being in an unfamiliar country in those fights and that may serve him well in the future ... if AJ’s promoter had taken him to America once or twice early in his career to face journeymen he might have been better prepared for fighting Ruiz in MSG.

[saintpat]

What part of "It's not the miles, it's the environment the home fighter has" don't you understand?

There is no difference in a fighter being 400 miles away to being 4,000 miles away. If you're in your opponents backyard, you're in enemy territory. The miles don't even come into it.

Being in one end of your own country to another is not the same as being in another opponents country. Trying to cast it off as such is pathetic because it isn't even remotely close to being the same.

If you’re from Los Angeles and fighting a guy from New York in New York, you’re in enemy territory. You’re in your opponent’s backyard.

Being in another country doesn’t mean you’re in the opponent’s backyard either. We saw that when Fast Eddie got his female phenom beat in New York but it was his promotion and his influence and she got an unjust decision to keep her record intact.

Manny fought many Americans in America, but he was the A-side and his promoter had the influence. He wasn’t some foreigner with no friends in sight. Another example: GGG is basically American — he lives here, trains here, etc. ... he’s not some invader fighting off the hometown heroes.

Crossing a border doesn’t make it harder to beat another fighter. Nothing magically changes when you have your passport checked making you less of a fighter.

Nine times out of 10, the better fighter wins. If a relatively close fight goes to a decision, hometown (or home country) judges might sway it one way or the other. Sometimes a ref (especially in the UK with Brit stoppages) will do something that favors the home guy. But these are cases when the matchup is close enough that it might fall into dispute — most of what people call ‘robberies’ are relatively close fights where a lot of rounds go by with little happening and fans figure their guy should get that round.

If AJ gets hit on the ear and upside the head by Ruiz, are you suggesting that in the UK he weathers those same punches? I don’t think so.

[Fanofreason]

Brits don’t realize we sell $500 per to 18k fans and they sell 70k $15 tickets

America is $$$

[thedarkdragon11]

The "homecourt advantage" will be yours, especially if you're a huge star...

Same reason why many British, Japanese and Thai boxers rarely fights outside their country...

But in the US, it's more than that... You can also achieve huge money and international fame...

[DaNeutral.]

Cuz they have corruption on their side when they fight in America. We see it often enough. All the strangest calls, dodgiest decisions and biggest robberies happen in America. They dont even try to hide the corruption no more. Its getting worse. But they cant guarantee their protected fighters the same level of protection if they go to the UK or Germany or France. Also we all know Americans on average dont like to leave America anyway, not just Boxers, Americans in general.

[lfc19titles]

Look at wilder vs Ortiz

Look at wilder vs fury

You have your answer

[Zaroku]

Tax law. Only Americans (and citizens of one very small African country) are taxed on income earned abroad. Boxing in the U.K., a fighter would be subject to both U.K. income tax ~45% and US income tax ~37%.

I pay tax in both japan and the US. It doesn’t feel good.

[Motorcity Cobra]

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Against Ricky Hatton in manchester, or Pac in philipinnes, or nel o in mexico. To prove he can do it

What fighter (or anybody for that matter) is going to lose out on millions to prove a point?

Ali was fighting in Africa & Manila because that's where the money was. A friend told me back then they we're paying $1000 here and $8000 in the UK so that's why he went.

He said his trainer got him the fight in the UK. Then after his fight his trainer fought a guy They went over there and cleaned up

[deathofaclown]

Some do travel but the truth is one you reach a certain level, the money is in USA.

Do you think Hearn has branched his business out into USA for fun? No, it’s because he knows success in USA can change him from a rich man to wealthy man.