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  • factsarenice
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    #91
    Absolutely, I'd pay for that fight....but...Canelo doesn't want Andrade, he'll move up before he fights Andrade or BJS. Think Lara with KO power, a stylistic nightmare for Canelo.

    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    I definitely want to see Canelo vs. Andrade! Do you?
    Truthfully, that's the fight

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    • Shadoww702
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      #92
      Originally posted by factsarenice
      WBC ordered what? Pizza? Who cares what the most corrupt body in boxing wants. 2nd, Canelo refuses to fight either Andrade or BJS, flat out refused. If you are the Canelo fan you claim to be you'd know that's not happening.
      Andrade will fight Canelo. Saunders LMFAO he should of lost to that guy Andrade stomped. Then he looked like dog sht his last fight....

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      • Bronx2245
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        #93
        Originally posted by factsarenice
        Absolutely, I'd pay for that fight....but...Canelo doesn't want Andrade, he'll move up before he fights Andrade or BJS. Think Lara with KO power, a stylistic nightmare for Canelo.



        Truthfully, that's the fight
        It is, and it would be for all 4 belts! Just the fact that GGG refused to fight Andrade, should mean GGG does not get to fight Canelo before Andrade! DAZN should enforce that!
        Last edited by Bronx2245; 06-11-2019, 11:34 AM.

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        • stealthradon
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          #94
          Canelotards say that Jacobs beat GGG, yet GGG, a pressure fighter, barely got hit more, in exchange for hitting Jacobs more than Canelo did. WAY WAY MORE. And Jacobs got dropped, something Clenelo was no way near.

          Canelo got schooled by Jacobs and GGG. He's afraid of losing that belt to an old man.

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          • Shadoww702
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            #95
            Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake
            Ummm allot of boxing experts think GGG won lol so i will take their opinion over yours.

            Sorry they don’t live in your abstract twilight universe lol

            And who is protecting who here, seems like you are protecting phagotnello from getting into a ring with GGG, ped cheat dont want that smoke?!
            He already fought ggg TWICE you crackbaby! And beat the MexiCAN style out of him. GGG own TRAINER said ggg lost you dope! Man your an ******** gone wrong. That doctor only scrambled your brain up with the coat hanger.

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            • Themanager
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              #96
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Was signing Demetrius Andrade a mistake by DAZN?
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              Far be it from me to, outside looking in, to tell Eddie Hearn and the DAZN crew that they might have made a misstep when they signed Demetrius “Boo Boo” Andrade into the fold.

              But I kinda think maybe they did.

              Hear me out.

              Demetrius Andrade deserves to be signed to the DAZN mix. Very, very talented guy. But in a way, he’s too talented. That’s because his ring generalship and skill set are top level, but his profile isn’t at the same level.

              Thus, if you are Team Canelo or Team Golovkin, you look hard at Andrade and that WBO 160-pound crown he has — and then I think you look elsewhere.

              Now you in the Boo Boo crew can hurl epithets and cast angry glares at the Canelo and GGG teams. But if you think about it, can you really blame them?

              This is the boxing business, after all. And the risk-reward proposition for an Andrade fight is not in the ballpark of a bunch of other matches for either Canelo or GGG.

              Furthermore, as a style match, Canelo vs Andrade is not a fan friendly pairing. It turned out that Canelo vs Jacobs wasn’t so much, and I think moving forward, that could be an issue for DAZN. Again, think about it: Canelo has now emerged as quite a skilled pugilist. His defense is top-notch and he’s not prone to trading and taking risks. If you’ve seen Andrade, you know the same can be said of him.

              Often times, merit wins out and these sorts of fights get made, even though they don’t promise to be barnburners, and are most likely to be enthused about by those who truly appreciate the subtleties of the sweet science.

              Anyway, Andrade has a gig lined up, as the 27-0 Rhode Island native battles Maciej Sulecki on June 29, at the Dunkin Donuts Center in Providence, Rhode Island.

              A thought: it might be better for Andrade, age 31, if he turns in a subpar performance, if Suliecki buzzes him or what have you. Boxing is a strange game — sometimes you gain more from a less glimmering outing.

              Bottom line, I do wonder this: does Eddie Hearn ever wish he’d not approached Andrade and had him come aboard? Because the particular nature of his talents makes him a bogeyman, and that bogeyman can only be avoided for so long. Yep, boxing is weird — only in this sphere does it make it harder when you have too much talent under the tent.

              https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/1...elo-ggg-boxing
              All good points! and unfortunately true...

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              • angkag
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                #97
                Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake
                it don’t matter, DAZN is gonna tell Golden Girl Squad to man up and fight GGG. Otherwise who else ?!
                DAZN can't tell Canelo's team to do anything, all they can do is dangle carrots and hope its big enough to get what they want (which is Canelo/Golovkin III).

                On the surface, its a fight Canelo can make the most money on, but I can see reasons why they might go for a different opponent and take a lower purse:

                Canelo is only 28, if he takes care of himself, he's got a good 5 years of operating at his peak ahead of him. Taking care also means avoiding fights where there is excesssive wear and tear that might take a year or two off his fighting lifespan. And who gives the most wear and tear ? Golovkin.

                Just take a look at the the punches that Canelo has taken in fights over the last 5 years. The KOs he gets are a bonus as he gets less wear and tear in those, but have a quick look at how many punches Canelo got hit by in each 12 round fight going back to Cotto:

                Cotto: 129 punches total (head and body)
                Chavez: 71 total (head and body)
                Jacobs: 101 total (to head only, ignores anything to body)

                Golovkin I: 218 (head and body)
                Golovkin II: 228 (headshots only)

                Attempted to exclude body punches assuming they don't add to wear and tear so much, but not every card broke the punchstats down to head/body.

                Point is Canelo has already aged himself against Golovkin, and if prioritising longevity, I think that's a very good reason not to go in there a third time with him - go fight others who don't hit you in the head so much !

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                • angkag
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  It is, and it would be for all 4 belts! Just the fact that GGG refused to fight Andrade, should mean GGG does not get to fight Canelo before Andrade! DAZN should enforce that!
                  I'm hoping Canelo does walk away from the pot of money on the table for Golovkin III (prioritising longevity over one-fight rewards) and Golovkin ends up having to go another route, which then leads to Andrade.

                  For the reasons you posted earlier, Canelo/Andrade could be a pretty stale affair, whereas Golovkin/Andrade could be far more entertaining. Golovkin likes to press forward and force the action, and is pretty good at cutting off the ring (did I hear the commentators call that 'Khazak style' when Akhmedov did it on the undercard?), which would force Andrade to fight.

                  Canelo's defence these days discourages anyone trying to close him down (even Golovkin kept a respectful distance - hence the evaporation of his body attack), meantime Canelo not the best at cutting off the ring and cornering mobile opponents - Andrade/Saunders would be dancing around all night hoping to win rounds by landing a jab or two.

                  So hoping Canelo goes and looks after his knee and leaves Golovkin looking around and seeing Andrade as the most viable opponent (and one I think Golovkin can win).

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                  • Caxcan
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                    #99
                    I don't blame Canelo for making GGG squirm after GGG threatened to kill the second fight unless his inflated demands were met. Canelo overpaid him to secure it, let him pick the judges and beat him according to the standards his team put forth, yet he acts like he calls the shots for a third fight when he's got no leverage coming off a cherry pick and with no belts?

                    Incidentally, coming off the loss in their previous meeting, GGG wasn't insisting on a rematch ASAP, instead he went into hiding and took his time recovering from his injuries and bruised ego. When he finally reemerged, it was to announce that he'd be fighting someone irrelevant and dissed Canelo's victory over Jacobs who GGG went life and death with, while telling the middleweight division to stand in line, including dismissing a potential title fight like all roads lead to him. But now that he finally feels up for a third fight, he's demanding it happen right away... or what, he'll continue cherrypicking? Gtfo

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                    • flojspot80
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                      #100
                      but why? golovkin already won both. We all know only vegas and mexico have canelo winning. Here in Asia and the rest of the boxing community. We all know boxing politics, it is what it is.

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