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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    I smell an upset with Fury/Schwarz.

    Don't misunderstand me. I'm not overrating Schwarz; he hasn't fought anybody worth mentioning. And the only time he got slept was due to a headbutt on the inside (Senad Gashi. Hilarious fight. If Norwood/Gainer is the textbook low blow fight, Schwarz/Gashi is the textbook headbutt fight.) And Schwarz seems to be a sucker for overhand rights. As in either he's never been trained to block that punch or he blocks punches with his face to get shots off. He debuted only 6 years ago though.

    But Jeff 'The Hornet' Horn was also a quick debut - upset Manny.

    Schwarz fights weird. If his opponent comes at him, he goes Clottey and waits for them to tire out. We know that won't work against Fury. When he sees an opening, the right hand is his go-to punch. Fury can evade with the best of them...But what got him caught against Wilder was...what?

    Overconfidence. And we know Fury can't take flush shots very well (which is why he puts so much work into evasion strategy and defense).

    Schwarz put up a video where he said he's got nothing to lose. This is important. The fighters that have gotten upsets share one trait: they're hungry. We saw it with Algieri vs Ruslan, Bradley vs. Ruslan, Bradley vs. Manny ("No matter how...you...cut it, slice it or weigh it, he LOST to Timothy Bradley. --Floyd), Bradley vs. Witter, Marquez against Manny, Horn against Manny, Ruiz against Joshua, Harrison against Charlo, etc.

    Has Fury gotten complacent? His videos have mostly said, he's long overdue for Vegas, he beat Wilder, he's the best, etc. You know who else was that complacent? Joshua, in the ESPN video I shared earlier.

    I don't know. It all seems too convenient and I could be flat out wrong and Fury walks through the guy. But it smells bad.
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    #2
    Lmao

    Schwartz is legit terrible.

    At least with Ruiz if you'd seen him fight you knew he was a decent fighter

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      Originally posted by Tyrone WBCfan
      Lmao

      Schwartz is legit terrible.

      At least with Ruiz if you'd seen him fight you knew he was a decent fighter
      Terrible fighters don't get ranked with the IBF. WBO is a different story, but IBF has been fairly consistent. Lest we forget, IBF had Schwarz ranked FAR above Ruiz before he beat Joshua.

      Schwarz is not going to be compared to anyone as a great boxer and I have never once said that. All I'm saying is, it's usually those awkward, rugged fighters who are hungry where you get the most fight.

      Put it this way.

      If Fury goes in there like he did against Pianeta, it's easy work for the Gypsy King.

      But if he thinks he'll make Schwarz quit like Seferi did, or if he underestimates Schwarz like he underestimated Wilder, we have a chance of an upset. That's all I'm saying.

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        Originally posted by revelated
        Don't misunderstand me. I'm not overrating Schwarz; he hasn't fought anybody worth mentioning. And the only time he got slept was due to a headbutt on the inside (Senad Gashi. Hilarious fight. If Norwood/Gainer is the textbook low blow fight, Schwarz/Gashi is the textbook headbutt fight.) And Schwarz seems to be a sucker for overhand rights. As in either he's never been trained to block that punch or he blocks punches with his face to get shots off. He debuted only 6 years ago though.

        But Jeff 'The Hornet' Horn was also a quick debut - upset Manny.

        Schwarz fights weird. If his opponent comes at him, he goes Clottey and waits for them to tire out. We know that won't work against Fury. When he sees an opening, the right hand is his go-to punch. Fury can evade with the best of them...But what got him caught against Wilder was...what?

        Overconfidence. And we know Fury can't take flush shots very well (which is why he puts so much work into evasion strategy and defense).

        Schwarz put up a video where he said he's got nothing to lose. This is important. The fighters that have gotten upsets share one trait: they're hungry. We saw it with Algieri vs Ruslan, Bradley vs. Ruslan, Bradley vs. Manny ("No matter how...you...cut it, slice it or weigh it, he LOST to Timothy Bradley. --Floyd), Bradley vs. Witter, Marquez against Manny, Horn against Manny, Ruiz against Joshua, Harrison against Charlo, etc.

        Has Fury gotten complacent? His videos have mostly said, he's long overdue for Vegas, he beat Wilder, he's the best, etc. You know who else was that complacent? Joshua, in the ESPN video I shared earlier.

        I don't know. It all seems too convenient and I could be flat out wrong and Fury walks through the guy. But it smells bad.
        If Fury cannot hurt his opponents? Then any big determined heavyweight has a chance. For me, Tyson Fury could be over trained 'Since he was decked badly by Deontay Wilder, he has been training like a maniac' This type of physiological environment and stress is alien to his body, he has never at any point in his boxing career lived in this manner. Fighters such as David Haye, Mayweather, Hopkins, Froch are fighters who where renowned for living the life, from very early stages in their careers.

        Sometimes when fighters suddenly decided to change their entire philosophies on training? There bodies cannot adapt fats enough, and then break down.Derek Chisora looked empty inside for his rematch with Dillian Whyte, and the reason for this? He had dramatically changed his entire philosophy on training.

        This is why it will be interesting to see how Fury performs, many people say that he was not 100% vs Wilder, I disagree the man was in condition 'But during the aftermath of the fight, it just seems like Wilder dented something within Fury internally'.

        Very interesting fight, Tyson Fury will probably win though but in what manner.

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          garbage fight. Schwartz way more Rolls than Ruiz. Fury should be ashamed and so should ggg.

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            No, at least I don't think so. Schwarz is a safe opponent for Fury. The only way I can see Fury losing this fight is unless he suffers a meltdown in the ring.

            Other than that this is a very safe cherry pick opponent for Tyson Fury where he can just lay back in relax in the ring. Schwarz is an overachiever. He has absolutely nothing that could remotely threaten Tyson Fury in the ring.

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              D- level troll thread.

              If not, seek medical help.

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                Nah. I doubt Fury is going to underestimate the guy (doesn't mean he won't be clowning him); he's learned the idiocy of doing so the hard way in the first McDermott and the Cunningham fights. He's probably using the fight to a) increase his physical fitness further, b) get back into the swing of things in a somewhat gentle manner after the high-pressure Wilder fight, feel out his own reactions to getting punched in the face, etc., and, hopefully, c) to add a couple KTFO shots to his arsenal and try them out on a decent fit young fighter who'll probably never reach his level of skill before testing it out in deep waters.

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                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  This is why it will be interesting to see how Fury performs, many people say that he was not 100% vs Wilder, I disagree the man was in condition 'But during the aftermath of the fight, it just seems like Wilder dented something within Fury internally'.

                  Very interesting fight, Tyson Fury will probably win though but in what manner.

                  Fury was in condition to box v Wilder but he had no strength because he had spend a whole year losing weight and that’s it.

                  His old man, trainer and Hatton all said that he needed a break and work on building strength and power back up. That’s really why his trainer was keen on him taking a fight or two before a rematch.

                  Understandable, you can’t just drop 130lbs and retain any strength if you’re just in a fat camp. He has spend the last 5 Months working on building his strength back up now the weight is off.

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                    Originally posted by revelated
                    Don't misunderstand me. I'm not overrating Schwarz; he hasn't fought anybody worth mentioning. And the only time he got slept was due to a headbutt on the inside (Senad Gashi. Hilarious fight. If Norwood/Gainer is the textbook low blow fight, Schwarz/Gashi is the textbook headbutt fight.) And Schwarz seems to be a sucker for overhand rights. As in either he's never been trained to block that punch or he blocks punches with his face to get shots off. He debuted only 6 years ago though.

                    But Jeff 'The Hornet' Horn was also a quick debut - upset Manny.

                    Schwarz fights weird. If his opponent comes at him, he goes Clottey and waits for them to tire out. We know that won't work against Fury. When he sees an opening, the right hand is his go-to punch. Fury can evade with the best of them...But what got him caught against Wilder was...what?

                    Overconfidence. And we know Fury can't take flush shots very well (which is why he puts so much work into evasion strategy and defense).

                    Schwarz put up a video where he said he's got nothing to lose. This is important. The fighters that have gotten upsets share one trait: they're hungry. We saw it with Algieri vs Ruslan, Bradley vs. Ruslan, Bradley vs. Manny ("No matter how...you...cut it, slice it or weigh it, he LOST to Timothy Bradley. --Floyd), Bradley vs. Witter, Marquez against Manny, Horn against Manny, Ruiz against Joshua, Harrison against Charlo, etc.

                    Has Fury gotten complacent? His videos have mostly said, he's long overdue for Vegas, he beat Wilder, he's the best, etc. You know who else was that complacent? Joshua, in the ESPN video I shared earlier.

                    I don't know. It all seems too convenient and I could be flat out wrong and Fury walks through the guy. But it smells bad.
                    Tyson’s defence is far too good for an upset.

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