Ruiz has some interesting comments on the Bill Simmons podcast

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  • champion4ever
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    #11
    Well as far as the venue is concerned, it's negotiable because Eddie just so happened to leave that logistical aspect of the rematch clause of the contract blank. Therefore, unless there is direct language or wording that Matchroom gets to choose the venue for the rematch, then we can very well have a stalemate on our hands. If Hearn doesn't capitulate to Al Haymon's and Andy Ruiz' demands the rematch could very well be scrapped.

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    • MDPopescu
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      #12
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      (...)

      Kovalev didn’t call any shots in the rematch.
      ... ^^^ This... (This is precisely the case here...)

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        #13
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows the purse isn't fixed in the rematch because you can't determine the worth of the Challenger before he wins. That was Wilder's main point of contention with the 2 fighter offer.
        Come on, you can't be ****** enough to believe that?

        Fight is made already, it's just fools in here believing they are actually negotiating.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Boksfan
          Come on, you can't be ****** enough to believe that?

          Fight is made already, it's just fools in here believing they are actually negotiating.
          Notice how it went from next fight in the UK to ok we'll do it in America. Trust me, that rematch clause ain't what y'all think it is. We hear that straight from Ruiz mouth. The champion has way more say in the rematch.

          Another thing y'all fail to realize is the leverage Ruiz had in making the first fight. It was Hearn & AJ whose backs were against the wall finding a suitable replacement opponent. If just anybody would've done the trick they would've had Hunter fight him. He now has more leverage than before.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            Notice how it went from next fight in the UK to ok we'll do it in America. Trust me, that rematch clause ain't what y'all think it is. We hear that straight from Ruiz mouth. The champion has way more say in the rematch.

            Another thing y'all fail to realize is the leverage Ruiz had in making the first fight. It was Hearn & AJ whose backs were against the wall finding a suitable replacement opponent. If just anybody would've done the trick they would've had Hunter fight him. He now has more leverage than before.
            Stick to the facts, champion has nothing to say if he signed rematch clause, ask Fury.

            How can boxing fans be so naive?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Boksfan
              Stick to the facts, champion has nothing to say if he signed rematch clause, ask Fury.

              How can boxing fans be so naive?
              So why did it go from "next fight in the UK" after the fight to the next fight being in America after Ruiz said he wanted $50 mil to fight there? If the money and location is already set in the rematch clause then why did everything change?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                So why did it go from "next fight in the UK" after the fight to the next fight being in America after Ruiz said he wanted $50 mil to fight there? If the money and location is already set in the rematch clause then why did everything change?
                Because they want clueless people to talk about this rematch, build interest making up stuff like that. It's boxing, 90% of what you hear is made up for fans to talk about, you watch boxing long enough to know what boxers/promoters say and what really happens are two different things.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  I suspect there is leeway he has via the power he has by owning the belts right now. So I tend to think Eddie has less control then he's suggesting, but I have no doubt he has the words on paper that give him the edge in power. But its more a two way street thats for sure.

                  Sh^t Ruiz could just start vacating belts if he wanted to f#cking up the whole unified champ thing. Not saying he would cuz thats likely to f#ck up his money & rep, but just trying to indicate through an extreme example that Ruiz has some power here.
                  Great point. I believe there have been times in the past where an underdog won the belts, was bound to a rematch clause, but was able to use those kinds of threats to get better or different terms than were in the rematch clause.

                  You can threaten retirement, you can threaten to vacate, you can threaten to come down with an injury or illness.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    Notice how it went from next fight in the UK to ok we'll do it in America. Trust me, that rematch clause ain't what y'all think it is. We hear that straight from Ruiz mouth. The champion has way more say in the rematch.

                    Another thing y'all fail to realize is the leverage Ruiz had in making the first fight. It was Hearn & AJ whose backs were against the wall finding a suitable replacement opponent. If just anybody would've done the trick they would've had Hunter fight him. He now has more leverage than before.
                    Hearn screwed up, he made the contract loose because this dude in his eyes was just a fat mexican with no shot in hell to beat his guy aj.

                    Boy did that backfire on hearn. Now Ruiz has all the cards and to make matters worse for hearn, ruiz is al haymons newly signed fighter under contract with pbc.

                    So joshua is officially screwed unless hearn gives into fair negotiations and gives ruiz some compensation or has the fight on fox ppv which would make more sense financially in the usa.

                    From what people have said its not an
                    Immediate rematch clause and hearn never put a non negotiable in there all because he thought AJ would dispense of this fat guy easily.

                    Hearn made a dumbo move, didnt he know ruiz was a haymon fighter?

                    Now haymon has all the belts. Even bob arum with all the **** he talks would never do a move like this. Hearn is an amateur.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                      Notice how it went from next fight in the UK to ok we'll do it in America. Trust me, that rematch clause ain't what y'all think it is. We hear that straight from Ruiz mouth. The champion has way more say in the rematch.

                      Another thing y'all fail to realize is the leverage Ruiz had in making the first fight. It was Hearn & AJ whose backs were against the wall finding a suitable replacement opponent. If just anybody would've done the trick they would've had Hunter fight him. He now has more leverage than before.
                      Absolutely ******

                      I bet this idiot doesn’t know what a
                      contract is, the fool is probably high again

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