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Anthony Joshua has fought 4 of the top 10 ring ****zine rankings, Wilder 2 and Fury 1

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    I thought we were dealing with facts. You said i only have opinions but then argue my fact with your opinion.

    Ruiz beat the best HW in the world, something Wilder has never done.
    Stop calling Frank Bruno the best HW in the world you embarrassed yourself enough mate

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Phenom View Post
      Stop calling Frank Bruno the best HW in the world you embarrassed yourself enough mate
      There you go with an opinion. FACTS, do you know what one is?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
        There you go with an opinion. FACTS, do you know what one is?


        FACT

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        • #24
          Originally posted by saintpat View Post
          My point is Ruiz was not a top guy until he beat AJ ... so AJ doesn’t get credit for fighting a top guy since he wasn’t that when they fought. Of course Ruiz should be elevated, but AJ doesn’t get credit for losing to some top-two or top-three guy because Ruiz wasn’t that when they fought.

          Likewise, I agree. You can’t pump up AJ’s resume by saying he fought Ruiz without acknowledging that he lost to him. Losing to Ruiz does not enhance AJ’s record.
          You can argue fury wasn’t top guy when he fought wilder also? Or certainly when he fought Klitschko (and was made #1 afterwards).

          Ruiz was around top10 before but like anyone, win and you move up.

          I didn’t make original post but it’s clearly fair to say Joshua has fought consistently too end opposition where as fury and wilder have only fought a couple each

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
            Ruiz beat the #1 HW in the world. How is he worse than Wilder?
            and also lost to Parker. Wilder and Fury are yet to lose their (boxing) ******ity.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Zelda View Post
              and also lost to Parker. Wilder and Fury are yet to lose their (boxing) ******ity.
              A debatable loss. Wilder has a clear loss that counts as a draw.

              So again how is he worse than Wilder?

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              • #27
                AJ is in 4th place at Heavyweight now.

                Fury:
                -defeated younger version of Wlad
                -had balls to face Wilder
                -undefeated
                -Lineal Heavyweight Champion

                Wilder:
                -had balls to face Fury
                -Superior fighter vs common opponent Dominic Breazeale, brutal KO that AJ could only dream of
                -undefeated

                Andy Ruiz:
                -Brutal destruction of Anthony Joshua, took all his belts

                Anthony Joshua:
                -Living off coatails of Wlad win over 2 years ago
                -inferior performance vs Dominic Breazeale, power is clearly lacking compared to Deontay
                -suffered brutal defeat at hands of clinically obese Andy Ruiz
                -not undefeated
                -has no belts
                -never became lineal champion
                -ducked Wilder
                -ducked Fury

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                  A debatable loss. Wilder has a clear loss that counts as a draw.

                  So again how is he worse than Wilder?
                  Do you go by real statistics or fantasy, wishful, made-up ones?

                  Once you come back to the real world, you will realize that amongst the top 3 only 2 have fought each other. They also hold a belt or title (even if self-proclaimed Lineal champion).

                  What does AJ have as of today?

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                  • #29
                    Fury went to germany and beat klitschko, and went to america and beat Wilder although was robbed.

                    That beats any win or accumulation of wins of either Joshua or Wilder. the only competition to this is Andy Ruiz's win over Joshua.

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                    • #30
                      And he lost to a guy who wasn't in the top ten til he beat Joshua. Thats a bad look.

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