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  • #51
    Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
    Again, you're not going to be able to match these guys in every fight with a fighter that will make them look good. Doesn't mean these fights don't deserve to happen.

    What's worse is when you get a dud of a fight in a massive mismatch. What are the chances Fury vs Schwarz is exciting? Now that has a chance to be a complete borefest with one guy much superior than the other.
    there is a chance it’s a bote rest and Tyson wins 12-0. That’s true but at least we are curious about Tyson who is probably the top heavyweight out there today. Guys like Devon Alexander, Rances Barthelemy Turax quillin we don’t ever need to see again. They will never be on Fury’s level. Same with ggg. Who gives a F about Rolls but we know ggg is an all action fighter and will be in a big fight.

    Literally we never ever need to see Rances or arreola or Devon Alexander or Alfredo angulo on tv again

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    • #52
      Originally posted by killakali View Post
      there is a chance it’s a bote rest and Tyson wins 12-0. That’s true but at least we are curious about Tyson who is probably the top heavyweight out there today. Guys like Devon Alexander, Rances Barthelemy Turax quillin we don’t ever need to see again. They will never be on Fury’s level. Same with ggg. Who gives a F about Rolls but we know ggg is an all action fighter and will be in a big fight.

      Literally we never ever need to see Rances or arreola or Devon Alexander or Alfredo angulo on tv again
      Truax was just a champion last year before he lost to Degale. Why exactly should he never be seen again? But if you don't want to see him get a legitimate fight likely ever? Then you won't if he loses to Quillin.

      Fury vs Schwarz is just terrible no other way to put it. You are paying Fury 10M+ against an overmatched opponent and he's unlikely to put him out in exciting fashion like a Wilder or even a Joshua would. A guy of that talent being in this type of fight which very well could be a borefest is the worst of them all. You're trying to make Fury a bigger star by putting him against.....Schwarz? Really? Putting him in against someone who he would be able to look good against and put out should have been the way to go.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
        Truax was just a champion last year before he lost to Degale. Why exactly should he never be seen again? But if you don't want to see him get a legitimate fight likely ever? Then you won't if he loses to Quillin.

        Fury vs Schwarz is just terrible no other way to put it. You are paying Fury 10M+ against an overmatched opponent and he's unlikely to put him out in exciting fashion like a Wilder or even a Joshua would. A guy of that talent being in this type of fight which very well could be a borefest is the worst of them all. You're trying to make Fury a bigger star by putting him against.....Schwarz? Really? Putting him in against someone who he would be able to look good against and put out should have been the way to go.
        and Truax should have never been a champ. We saw what fury did to wilder and I can watch fury Schwarz as part of my $4 per month espn+ membership I i paid the $49.99 for a year and I get Hart vs barrera. Chit that’s better than one pbc card.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by BOXING-SCRIBE View Post
          My point? Anyone can train and fight hard fight to defend themselves..why should we clamour for things that most of us can do? If anyone here trains for 8 weeks straight after years of being in the gym they could become C level fighters, but there are a few in division that are truly gifted, the ones that most people could never be like, and these guys are not fighting each other, so we are calling a spade a spade...truth is boxing is full of bums...or just average guys
          Hey man listen I get it. I've said as much before. The best are not fighting the best enough for the fans. There's fighter posturing, promoter politics, network competition. There's ABSOLUTELY too many sanctioning bodies in professional boxing, with too many in-division belts, all motivated by money and greed, that ultimately also negatively impacts the ease of seeing the best fight the best. There's corruption in the judging system and probable collusion amongst other boxing authorities. There's a SLEW of problems you could point to, that if rectified might make for better, more entertaining, compelling boxing. I can agree with you. I get it ! I've said all this before ! It's OLD NEWS.

          What I'm talking about is a general ideology toward negative things in life, that I believe in my heart to be wisdom. You want to... "Call a Spade...a Spayyyyyde". Okay fine. Once you've called your "spade a spade", every week with your buddies - Every other week on NSB - Here and there on YouTube - A few more times on NSB, - and any other chance you can get in a social setting, what have you really accomplished and where did that get you ? You blew off some steam and got it off your chest so that you don't smack your wife and kids ? I dunno. Just sayin' that it boils down to a bunch of whining, complaining, moaning, and negativity about something that just "ain't that big of a deal" and you can't do much about.

          "Yeah, but this is the sport I love man, and I'm passionate about this stuff, and man it's just not fair, and..." I hear you bro, trust me I hear you. The product ain't up to snub...You feel it's not exciting enough for you, cuz just average Joe's are in the ring, fighting on TV while your expectations are NOT being met. Friggin no good commy bahstards.
          So, what can YOU do about it ? Get upset? Sign on BoxingScene and get the other ball-chaffed fellers to cosign your upsetness ? There's NOTHING you can do about it brooooo. Now if the "calling a spade a spade" and beechin about it, really and truly does help you psychologically, not to lash out at your family, then I'm not really gonna knock it too much. That might just be a healthy outlet. But what are the odds that ALL the "men" in here have the SAME mental issue, and have a sociopathic-level need to see exciting, elite level boxing, on a specified consistency ? You see where I'm going with this bro ? I'd just rather see people complain less and develop another perspective, if things ain't going their way. I could do the same thing. If I didn't want to see the negativity, I could swear off social media. I don't HAVE to watch men fight and I don't HAVE to dialogue about it if I don't want to...
          This is just me, but I "called that spade a spade" a couple years ago, and I rarely mention it anymore. I changed my perspective, so as not to allow it to bother me.

          How? First off, I thought back to when I was a teenager and boxed for the Police Athletic League. Three 2 minute rounds with head gear and big pillow sized gloves. I don't know how much you boxed, but keeping my gloves up for just 3 rounds became a problem, and I got hit in the face...ALOT. All the Vaseline in my eyes didn't help either. It takes a special individual to commit to "years" in the gym and become a 'C' level pro. Trust me, if there's ANYTHING else a person can do, most people are going to do that, INSTEAD of fight.
          I doubt you have EVER paid to see your or my level boxing talent, fight in the ring.
          You might get a Barthelemy-Easter Jr. or Trout-Gausha, that ends up being too boring for you, but to call them "average" or "bums", IMO, is disrespectful to the sport and narrow minded. But like I said, I agree - I agree, there are too many "past their prime", mismatch title fights, "second-level" matchups being made, for an array of reasons, while we wait on the good fights or never get them.

          So, as I was saying, I learned to appreciate what WAS being made or televised OR find other things in life to fulfill that void. Sowing discord and negativity with my friends or on the internet, is NOT the way to go. It serves NO beneficial purpose for me. It's beneath me, and it's beneath you too. It's old news, it's redundant...it's the low road.

          Anyhow, hats off to you if you read all of my, sage enlightenment. I respect however you choose to receive it. The facts regarding the state of professional boxing may be as you stated, but the TRUTH of the matter is that "Calling a Spade a Spade" will not change it, and what you CAN do is, Stop watching it if it's that poor, or accept it for what it is, and enjoy what you can. Life is too short for daily "Negative Nancy" trips and arguments over petty details.
          Peace my brother.
          Last edited by CauliflowerEars; 06-07-2019, 12:11 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
            Truax was just a champion last year before he lost to Degale. Why exactly should he never be seen again? But if you don't want to see him get a legitimate fight likely ever? Then you won't if he loses to Quillin.

            Fury vs Schwarz is just terrible no other way to put it. You are paying Fury 10M+ against an overmatched opponent and he's unlikely to put him out in exciting fashion like a Wilder or even a Joshua would. A guy of that talent being in this type of fight which very well could be a borefest is the worst of them all. You're trying to make Fury a bigger star by putting him against.....Schwarz? Really? Putting him in against someone who he would be able to look good against and put out should have been the way to go.
            if Truax lies believe me he will still get a legitimate fight. He will get 1-2 bs fights then a top 160 or 168 and u know it

            Fury Schwarz is not a good fight but st least we know he’s got the wilder rematch.

            It’s not like he’s fighting someone like Tank Davis last three and next opponent. That’s what u should be mad at

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            • #56
              Originally posted by killakali View Post
              if Truax lies believe me he will still get a legitimate fight. He will get 1-2 bs fights then a top 160 or 168 and u know it

              Fury Schwarz is not a good fight but st least we know he’s got the wilder rematch.

              It’s not like he’s fighting someone like Tank Davis last three and next opponent. That’s what u should be mad at
              You’re just trying too hard my man....

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              • #57
                Originally posted by killakali View Post
                and Truax should have never been a champ. We saw what fury did to wilder and I can watch fury Schwarz as part of my $4 per month espn+ membership I i paid the $49.99 for a year and I get Hart vs barrera. Chit that’s better than one pbc card.
                Why are you talking about the membership of ESPN+? What are you even doing here?

                Once again, you talk about one thing and take the conversation elsewhere.

                Don't try to defend Fury vs Schwarz. It's a terrible terrible fight period. And it's going to be boring. LIS, nothing is worse than a borefest decision against an overmatched opponent. Who cares what that fight leads to? If you are going to put on a mismatch, make sure you put one on that will make the fighter look good and the future fight look better. No clue what TR was thinking here. You use Joshua vs Ruiz as an example of a fight that is seen as a mismatch but with styles that mesh well yet you're going to go completely against that theory for Fury/Schwarz? Please tell me how great these two styles are going to mesh? Talk to me about the "art" of matchmaking for this fight… Oh wait, you just pick and choose when you want to make that argument.

                Truax should never have been a champ? Why? Not like he won a vacant title or anything, he beat Degale for the title. It is laughable to say he shouldn't be on TV again just because he lost to Degale in the rematch. He's not going to be a factor if he loses to Quillin period. At least not in the title picture unless he pulls some unexpected wins out against some legit fighters.

                Looks like this must have triggered you since you responded back to the same post seven hours later and then ended up taking a shot at Davis? LMAO!!! Wow!! And buddy, I've been calling for Davis team to let him fight Lomachenko for a while. I've been saying he will fare a lot better than they think he will and won't get embarrassed so the lost won't hurt him. I don't need to sell BS here. I'm all for these youngsters going for it early on and that's why I want the Lopez vs Lomachenko fight.

                But since you are a fan of mismatches that at least will be entertaining, I'm sure you're really looking forward to the Valdez/Sanchez fight. I mean Valdez is headlining an ESPN card where he is a 25/1 favorite but no worries, the styles of the fighters will at least mesh right? Or are we not using that argument here? Just let me know, because I get a little confused with you when that reasoning is used for certain fights.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by CauliflowerEars View Post
                  Hey man listen I get it. I've said as much before. The best are not fighting the best enough for the fans. There's fighter posturing, promoter politics, network competition. There's ABSOLUTELY too many sanctioning bodies in professional boxing, with too many in-division belts, all motivated by money and greed, that ultimately also negatively impacts the ease of seeing the best fight the best. There's corruption in the judging system and probable collusion amongst other boxing authorities. There's a SLEW of problems you could point to, that if rectified might make for better, more entertaining, compelling boxing. I can agree with you. I get it ! I've said all this before ! It's OLD NEWS.

                  What I'm talking about is a general ideology toward negative things in life, that I believe in my heart to be wisdom. You want to... "Call a Spade...a Spayyyyyde". Okay fine. Once you've called your "spade a spade", every week with your buddies - Every other week on NSB - Here and there on YouTube - A few more times on NSB, - and any other chance you can get in a social setting, what have you really accomplished and where did that get you ? You blew off some steam and got it off your chest so that you don't smack your wife and kids ? I dunno. Just sayin' that it boils down to a bunch of whining, complaining, moaning, and negativity about something that just "ain't that big of a deal" and you can't do much about.

                  "Yeah, but this is the sport I love man, and I'm passionate about this stuff, and man it's just not fair, and..." I hear you bro, trust me I hear you. The product ain't up to snub...You feel it's not exciting enough for you, cuz just average Joe's are in the ring, fighting on TV while your expectations are NOT being met. Friggin no good commy bahstards.
                  So, what can YOU do about it ? Get upset? Sign on BoxingScene and get the other ball-chaffed fellers to cosign your upsetness ? There's NOTHING you can do about it brooooo. Now if the "calling a spade a spade" and beechin about it, really and truly does help you psychologically, not to lash out at your family, then I'm not really gonna knock it too much. That might just be a healthy outlet. But what are the odds that ALL the "men" in here have the SAME mental issue, and have a sociopathic-level need to see exciting, elite level boxing, on a specified consistency ? You see where I'm going with this bro ? I'd just rather see people complain less and develop another perspective, if things ain't going their way. I could do the same thing. If I didn't want to see the negativity, I could swear off social media. I don't HAVE to watch men fight and I don't HAVE to dialogue about it if I don't want to...
                  This is just me, but I "called that spade a spade" a couple years ago, and I rarely mention it anymore. I changed my perspective, so as not to allow it to bother me.

                  How? First off, I thought back to when I was a teenager and boxed for the Police Athletic League. Three 2 minute rounds with head gear and big pillow sized gloves. I don't know how much you boxed, but keeping my gloves up for just 3 rounds became a problem, and I got hit in the face...ALOT. All the Vaseline in my eyes didn't help either. It takes a special individual to commit to "years" in the gym and become a 'C' level pro. Trust me, if there's ANYTHING else a person can do, most people are going to do that, INSTEAD of fight.
                  I doubt you have EVER paid to see your or my level boxing talent, fight in the ring.
                  You might get a Barthelemy-Easter Jr. or Trout-Gausha, that ends up being too boring for you, but to call them "average" or "bums", IMO, is disrespectful to the sport and narrow minded. But like I said, I agree - I agree, there are too many "past their prime", mismatch title fights, "second-level" matchups being made, for an array of reasons, while we wait on the good fights or never get them.

                  So, as I was saying, I learned to appreciate what WAS being made or televised OR find other things in life to fulfill that void. Sowing discord and negativity with my friends or on the internet, is NOT the way to go. It serves NO beneficial purpose for me. It's beneath me, and it's beneath you too. It's old news, it's redundant...it's the low road.

                  Anyhow, hats off to you if you read all this, sage enlightenment. I respect however you choose to receive it. The facts regarding the state of professional boxing may be as you stated, but the TRUTH of the matter is that "Calling a Spade a Spade" will not change it, and what you CAN do is, Stop watching it if it's that poor, or accept it for what it is, and enjoy what you can. Life is too short for daily "Negative Nancy" trips and arguments over petty details.
                  Peace my brother.
                  I read the whole respons. Solid response, well thought out. At the end of it, I got that, you agree with me, but you rather not ***** about it. Would you continue to spend money on subpar products when you know that: A) there are better products out there or B) the Co. Can produce a better product, but will not because we continue to buy it anayway...Promoters a jiving us and pocketing money, obviously boxers cannot give us great fight after great fight, but these guys are making career off of fighting bums, while they laugh all the way to the bank. .wish you could ask my wife how good we are lol. I have boxed in the states and in Korea, been punched and managed to punch back. We are getting jipped with these bum matches and I am hoping to make enough noise on this platform to make a change, because I hate to conform to the the powers that be when they are jerking all of us and it is getting old. Peace to you too!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
                    You’re just trying too hard my man....
                    You’re just slurping too hard my man.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post

                      Truax should never have been a champ? Why? Not like he won a vacant title or anything, he beat Degale for the title. It is laughable to say he shouldn't be on TV again just because he lost to Degale in the rematch. He's not going to be a factor if he loses to Quillin period. At least not in the title picture unless he pulls some unexpected wins out against some legit fighters.
                      how did he get that title shot against degale? he was ko'd by jacobs. he was ko'd by dirrell. title shot! losing to degale. losing to quillin. he seems in line for another shot if that happens

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