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  • yard man
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    #81
    i do like whyte but hate the way he is shyting on aj this is ***ed up i dont expect that from him

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    • champion4ever
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      #82
      I don't believe that VADA testing had anything to do with AJ losing to Andy Ruiz. The real reason why he lost to Ruiz was because Deontay Wilder had mind fucked him and his fans.

      Joshua was completely obsessed with this man and couldn't keep him out of his mind which distracted him to the point of him losing focus on the fight. All everyone was talking about during the build up to Anthony Joshua week was Deontay Wilder.

      Even Wilder made that week all about himself by dropping announcements about his future fights with Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury; Which made AJ and his team even more anxious about fighting Deontay Wilder in their next fight.

      Which was evident when Joshua dropped Ruiz in the third round. In his mind he thought he had to look impressively by ending the fight early in order to match Deontay Wilder's result with Dominic Breazeale but ultimately it backfired. He was stopped himself instead.

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      • MastaBlasta
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        #83
        Originally posted by vitali1999
        This may be true but it's no excuse to lose to a short fat little Mexican. Ruiz hit Parker with those same shots but he didn't budge. Joshua acted like a drunk man when hit with those same shots. Glass chin baby, that can't be fixed.
        Actually, Parker ran and held most of that fight. He did have an exchange maybe twice a round and landed some nice punches. But Ruiz stalked him all night, and when he caught up to him began bombing him until Parker started holding , wrestling, and back to running.

        Had Parker stood and fought more he would've got stopped. Ruiz was after him all night. When they stood and exchanged Ruiz got the better of it time after time. Ruiz should've got the win. Parker got a hometown decision.

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        • MastaBlasta
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          #84
          Originally posted by sayf
          The way I see it, this is his only way of winning.
          Look back at the Kiltchko brothers before Manny Steward, same outcome. Steward made them use their attributes and work behind the jab successfully for many years. It's not exciting, but there's no doubting it was effective for over a decade.
          If Joshua does the same in sure he could dominate just as well.

          Since the Whyte fight he's looked vulnerable. Boxing behind a jab and not taking risks will make him successful and will be the only way he can defeat Wilder. I'm not sure how he handles Fury though.
          If Wlad's era had the variety of big guys we have now, I doubt he would have dominated. He always had serious trouble with guys his size, and never fought bigger guys until Fury (he never tried to fight Valuev).

          Dr. Steelhammer was tougher and I think he would do well with the current group. Maybe a few more losses though.

          There are lots of younger guys that are going to cause trouble at HW in the very near future. Efe, Usyk, Dubois, Joyce, Hampton, Ruiz, Rivas ... these young guys are dangerous. Then the established guys: Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, AJ, Povetkin, Breazeale (he'll get back in the mix), Pulev. Add in some tough all-around guys: Hammer, Dimitrenko, Kownacki, Big Baby (maybe), Takam, Gorman, etc.

          HW is gonna have surprising wars for a while ... in 18 months I doubt anyone will be safe at HW.

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            #85
            Originally posted by MastaBlasta
            Actually, Parker ran and held most of that fight. He did have an exchange maybe twice a round and landed some nice punches. But Ruiz stalked him all night, and when he caught up to him began bombing him until Parker started holding , wrestling, and back to running.

            Had Parker stood and fought more he would've got stopped. Ruiz was after him all night. When they stood and exchanged Ruiz got the better of it time after time. Ruiz should've got the win. Parker got a hometown decision.
            No Parker won. Like I said Parker walked through the same punches that put Joshua on her back.

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            • MastaBlasta
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              #86
              Originally posted by vitali1999
              No Parker won. Like I said Parker walked through the same punches that put Joshua on her back.
              LoL, Parker backed up 90% of the fight. "Walked through"? Was he moonwalking? LoL! But I concede, Parker occasionally stopped and threw a good connecting punch. But he LOST (got a gift). Rematch will be different.

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              • sayf
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                #87
                Originally posted by MastaBlasta
                If Wlad's era had the variety of big guys we have now, I doubt he would have dominated. He always had serious trouble with guys his size, and never fought bigger guys until Fury (he never tried to fight Valuev).

                Dr. Steelhammer was tougher and I think he would do well with the current group. Maybe a few more losses though.

                There are lots of younger guys that are going to cause trouble at HW in the very near future. Efe, Usyk, Dubois, Joyce, Hampton, Ruiz, Rivas ... these young guys are dangerous. Then the established guys: Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, AJ, Povetkin, Breazeale (he'll get back in the mix), Pulev. Add in some tough all-around guys: Hammer, Dimitrenko, Kownacki, Big Baby (maybe), Takam, Gorman, etc.

                HW is gonna have surprising wars for a while ... in 18 months I doubt anyone will be safe at HW.
                Out of the ones you mentioned, Usyk it's the only world class operator. I'm looking forward to see how he does. He may not be the biggest, but skills wise he's the one that'll give Fury a hard time, because arguably he's the better boxer. I doubt he'll be a knock out artist, but I'm sure there will be a few TKOs from sustained damage.

                I have to agree about the Kiltchko brothers, they didn't fancy bigger guys, but like Amir Khan said yesterday, it's prizefighting so you gotta fight smart. It's not courageous, but if you want to dominate you have to fight the fights you know you'll win. Just look at Mayweather he's the prefect example. It's easy for us in the sidelines to criticise fighters, but at the end of the day if we were in their shoes and knew we only had a limited time to make a much of a living as possible before retiring, we'd probably do the same.

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                • lowblows420
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                  #88
                  Whyte is a little bit ch hatin azz N1 gga

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                  • TinAgeOfBoxing
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                    #89
                    Look what happened to Jarrell Miller in his first VADA fight. He did not even make it into the ring. AJ made it but fought like he had been castrated. Both those guys were invincible and undefeated before VADA.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by vitali1999
                      No Parker won. Like I said Parker walked through the same punches that put Joshua on her back.
                      Serious question, no doubting you but did you actually watch the full Parker/Ruiz fight? Not talking about highlights, but the full fight. If you didn’t then I suggest you do that, if you did then I suggest you watch it again. Because Parker didn’t walk through anything. He was walked down by Ruiz, Parker is very fluid unlike the robotic Joshua so he was able to fight going backwards and through the jab and his one twos in Ruiz’s direction. He held, maul and clinch his way. No criticising the performance, just what I saw in that full fight. Once he felt Ruiz’s power he was very respectful in the way he fought him.

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