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  • TonyGe
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    #61
    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
    Pacquiao was #2 of the world.

    Márquez was in the top-5

    Look the bodies of bothg fighters, they looked great

    So, Floyd win against Pacquiao was mediocre because Pacquiao was too old and shot?

    Yes or not?
    Both guys looked like crap IMO regardless of who won.

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      #62
      Originally posted by kushking
      Theres other videos & articles even from same dailymail sports where hes acting sanctimonious towards AJ. My point of this thread is also that ggg has no room to talk against anyone since hes fighting the 110th ranked boxer at mw(he has been bumped up to 80 now since then,but still) The fact also remains that ggg went missing for 9 mos & suddenly VADA tweets 3 weeks before the rolls fight that hes just started testing,yet gggs talking about AJ somehow"getting messed up from change in testing" my point is one shouldn't throw stones when living in a glass house.
      Golovkin can't go missing in action because he is in the clean boxing program which includes between fight testing. In other words he can be tested by VADA at any time between fights. If he declines then he is dropped out of the WBC rankings.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
        He is way better cutting the ring Lara fight was 5 years ago and canelo knows now he has an iron chin
        Cutting off the ring against who? He hasn't fought anyone with Lara's mobility since then. As far as Canelo cutting off the ring against Lara he didn't do a very good job in the first half of the fight. Lara got hurt to the body and slowed down but Canelo still had problems with his movement. As far as Floyd goes the 28 year old Canelo hasn't improved enough if at all to beat Floyd at 152 pounds. So getting back to the main point. No Canelo was not too young and inexperienced to fight Floyd.

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        • kushking
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          #64
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          Golovkin can't go missing in action because he is in the clean boxing program which includes between fight testing. In other words he can be tested by VADA at any time between fights. If he declines then he is dropped out of the WBC rankings.
          There was another thread where everyone was discussing cbp vs vada 365. It has been verified by Fat dan that the WBC cbp is much less stringent & a seperate program from vada 365. I also have a pamphlet from the wbc that says they encourage fighters to do VADA as part of cbp but that they don't have to be tested in between fights if they don't pay supposedly,& remember also that ggg isn't fighting for belts anymore either. My point is merely that he has no room to pull rank on AJ about anything especially testing

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #65
            Originally posted by baroidi
            considering glaring weaknesses in Joshua's game, and the massive amount of hype the Brit boxing establishment and media was lavishing on the underwear model, Joshua is the posterboy of a hype job.

            Not only were unbiased boxing fans pointing out Joshua's inability to take a shot, his poor conditioning, and robotic movements, but former boxing greats were also saying Joshua has glaring weaknesses, but we were all angrily dismissed as jealous haters, by his starry eyed fanbois.
            So you haven't heard of Broner, Berto, V. Ortiz, Judah, Charlos, Grant, Morrison, Etc etc?

            They never came close to achieving as much as AJ has. That's a real hype job.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
              It's crazy how people use "resume " to rate a boxer in terms of their skill or accomplishments. A guy can fight a ton of tomato cans and at the end of the day be a top dog. GGG for example. Dude has a real ****ty resume with a lot of top 10 guys but no "legacy" fights. Then he takes on the best in Canelo and imo gets robbed twice. It only took a sketchy score card, some PED scandal, and a razor thin margin for a prime 28 year old Canelo to beat a 37 year old GGG.

              How is that being a hype job?

              Then you got Joshua, who has probably the best Resume at HW AND in his prime and he gets blown out by a guy no one gave a chance? The odds were like 25-1 in some places if I recall correctly and it wasnt even controversial. Joshua got dominated by a lesser fighter.

              And then the people talk about the mental part. Joshua had a panic attack? He cant take shots? And then the humiliation of getting stomped on a big stage?

              Being mentally strong is far more important than being physically strong and personally I just dont see him coming back. Imagine losing to Ruiz again?

              Having a resume filled with big names means nothing.

              AJ is a hype job.
              Erm, resume is their accomplishments. No other way to judge the quality of a fighter other than who they beat.

              Look at Wilder playing champion. In 42 fights he's only beaten an unproven hype job in Ortiz and that's it. He even lost to a 50% version of Fury. It's easy staying at home and cherry picking weaker comp. Only when he achieves equal or more than AJ can he be considered anything other than a hype job. But he's too cowardly to try. That much we know.

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              • Sid-Knee
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                #67
                Originally posted by tonysoprano
                He's right though. Saunders doesn't deserve to be in the same ring as him.

                BJS last 5 opponents.

                Shefat Isufi
                Charles Adamu
                David Lemieux
                Willie Monroe Jr
                Artur Akavov

                2 guys GGG easily smashed and 3 bums.

                BJS is absolute trash and should be nowhere near the likes of GGG or Canelo. If i was them i wouldn't even let a bum killer like him fight on my undercard.
                Saunders is better than anyone Canelo has beaten. And i'm talking about actually beat, not robberies.

                With Golovkin, Saunders is better than anyone other than Canelo. And even then i'd pick Saunders to give him a boxing lesson. Whether he gets the decision is another thing.

                But who else would you like them to fight? More bums and smaller fighters?

                I think you know who would win which is why you don't want it to happen. Don't worry though, they both know how good he is so won't be going anywhere near him. Canelo and Oscar made that clear some time back.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ghost of Sparta
                  Joshua is the hype job, not GGG. Golovkin twice fought,held his own, and arguably won a match against the best in his division. Joshua did/has not done this.
                  Wlad was the number 1 in the division when AJ beat him. Fury was out so Wlad moved back into the number 1 slot.

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by kushking
                    There was another thread where everyone was discussing cbp vs vada 365. It has been verified by Fat dan that the WBC cbp is much less stringent & a seperate program from vada 365. I also have a pamphlet from the wbc that says they encourage fighters to do VADA as part of cbp but that they don't have to be tested in between fights if they don't pay supposedly,& remember also that ggg isn't fighting for belts anymore either. My point is merely that he has no room to pull rank on AJ about anything especially testing
                    Dude I got my information from the WBC clean boxing program web page. The testing consists of in training and out of training testing. All fighters in the top 15 rank in the WBC have to be enrolled. They also have to make their whereabouts known so they can be tested at the discression of VADA. Whether it's more or less stringent in reality I don't know for sure. I tried looking up the differences but had no luck getting the information. So a thread on this forum offering up an opinion I take with a grain of salt.

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                    • Ghost of Sparta
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      Wlad was the number 1 in the division when AJ beat him. Fury was out so Wlad moved back into the number 1 slot.
                      Wlad had fell off long before he fought him and had been inactive for a year and a half at the age of 41. Fury had finished Wlad and still the old man nearly took out the hypejob on foreign soil.

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