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  • #61
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
    Of course we still want to see Joshua Wilder. Fighters have careers. This isn’t a “once you lose” sport it’s over like the Brits think.
    Brits don't think like this. It's the Americans who do.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by |DARKSEID| View Post
      I highly doubt Joshua wants this fight. Joshua is not a warrior.

      If Ruiz was too much for him, do you really think he wants to face wilder? Nope lol.
      Wlad, Whyte, Parker and Povetkin are better fighters than Ruiz. Parker has already beaten him. It's just the way it goes sometimes. It's happened to so many greats where they've been beaten by lesser fighters than they've beaten.

      Styles make fights too. Ruiz is shorter which makes AJ a bit uncomfortable. He dips down and lets his left hang low. Against a fighter his height is where he's most comfortable.

      Wilder isn't a warrior. Just look at who the coward has fought in 42 fights. He's only beaten an unproven hype job in Ortiz. That's a disgrace. He's such a punk he ran and ducked AJ due to fear. I would have given him credit had he gone in there and lost. But no, he doesn't have the heart for it to even try.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Deontay Wilder View Post
        Pacquiao lost to Marquez before Mayweather fought him.

        Tyson lost to Douglas before Holyfield fought him.

        Hearns lost to Leonard before Hagler fought him.

        AJ can follow in the footsteps of these greats.
        Thank you!

        We have "real" boxing fans this spewing nonsense because AJ lost, and casual fans are regurgitating the same mess.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by |DARKSEID| View Post
          If Ruiz was too much for him, do you really think he wants to face wilder?

          That's like getting your ass terrorized by a dog, and then signing up to fight a wolf next.

          I don't think Joshua is going anywhere near Wilder. He was already broken down mentally by ruiz, he's already dreading that rematch.. He wants no part of wilder.

          I bet this fight never happens. Joshua will retire before he steps in the ring with wilder.
          You lot are creating a false narrative again aren't you? Where is AJ "Dreading" the rematch?

          You need to come into the real world. But it's clear you're too scared to. So you just make it up as you go along. You're jackanory world. Land of lies and delusion. Not forgetting the land of cowards.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
            wilder said many times the fight will happen..."be patient"

            god..you guys should just go away and hide until AJ gets his rematch and hope he can avenge this....cause every time you fools open your mouths you just look more dumb than the time before...jfc....gtfoh forreal

            the first cut is the deepest....but there will be better days...hang in there
            You're the biggest fool on this site bar none. You acknowledge Wilder being a coward with his ducking and excuses, but still refuse to see him as a ducking coward by making the most ridiculous excuses I've seen for him.

            You're just backwards and deranged with all this pathetic shlt. F3ck me. Just imagine being you. I'd rather be a homeless person addicted to crack than be anything like you.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
              Wilder needs to send his management team bottles of ‘88 Dom Perignon, Hennessy Paradis Imperial, Bolivar Belicosos Fino’s, and Daytona Rolexes for advising him not to take that dazn deal. He and Joshua May never fight and as soon as wilder would have signed it he would have been locked into two more fights and outside of the view of FOX and Showtime in total obscurity. And knowing that Joshua never met skipper, never had an extended contract with dazn, and didn’t even seem to have any sort of relationship with the entity cutting him his biggest cheques, we now know why skipper had to apologise to wilder for not having certain details at hand when he met with wilder and his team. Skipper expected to wilder to be as easy sell, expected him not to be meticulous about contracts....he and his excellent advisors showed him otherwise.
              And so many Hearn influenced/controlled fans insisted wilder sign with dazn....but never did anyone insist Joshua MUST sign with PBC or showtime....not were there any demands that Fury sign with PBC or showtime to fight wilder. In fact, those same Hearn obsessed fans never insisted fury sign with dazn. It was always about CONTROLLING wilder’s career. Hearn fans are an odd fanatical group of recent boxing fans who never knew boxing before Eddie Hearn
              Skipper didn't have the exact money AJ was going to get. Nothing more. But yeah, Deontay will definitely be celebrating. He feels he's got rid of the one who made him this coward and come out with all these contradictions all the time. It went as far as Wilder projecting everything he is onto AJ and taking AJ's characteristics. That's how extreme it is.

              But nothing will make disappear the facts of the matter with Wilder and all his lies and ducking. Nothing.

              Enjoy him though you coward. You're just like him. A disgusting piece of vermin. An abomination. Anything is better than being subhuman like you lot. Liars and deceivers. Cowards and hypocrites. Weirdos who don't live in reality.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
                Question...why do wilder haters concentrate on his money so much? I never remember this obsessive attention to one fighters money ever....not Holyfield, not Lewis, not Tyson, not Ali, it foreman, etc and no other fighter in IBM’s day and age.....there is one reason a certain fan base concentrates on wilders money...Hearn tells them to
                When one fighter brings a lot more to the table, you then don't split it straight down the middle. Otherwise every fighter would just do 50/50 regardless of pulling power.

                It's like paying those that work at McDonalds the same money the owners and shareholders get. It's f3cking ****** you don't understand simple business. But it doesn't surprise me. Soon, you'll be arguing the other way when it's an American in the driving seat. You're hypocrites is why. It's always the way. You'll get on with it like nothing is out of sorts. Dishonesty and lack of integrity is all you know how to be.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
                  Bro with all due respect don’t build on my post to further soft spin a Wilder loss arguement.

                  Whether you like it or not the AJ image war crumbled when he got mercilessly beaten this past Saturday.

                  Guys are still trying to politicize the winner. Well you can’t elect a champ in a sport with the very realest outcomes.

                  Wilder’s stock price just went up. Joshua’s stock price just plummeted. There is simply no spinning that.

                  Furthermore, Ruiz vs Wilder (Mexican American vs Afro American) will be even bigger than Joshua vs Wilder. In America these cultures against each other become very polarized and everyone will tune in. See Mayweather verse Delahoya and Mayweather verses Canelo.

                  Bottom line is PBC is a winner because they have both fighters and ALL the belts. The very situation Hearn was posing with the so called Dillian Whyte obstacle challenge.

                  So if anything DAZN and Hearns gamble didn't pay off. They should have come with a fairer deal with real negotiation as it desperately needs new subscriptions. Yet no one mentions they just lost one of their top two draws and biggest attractions?

                  Anyone in business knows Wilders offer was a DAZN bailout plan. Any deal where Hearn gains access to both Heavyweights (one temporary and one permanent), controls the venue, ref and the judging was not going to benefit Wilder’s honest boxing legacy.

                  Besides PBC and Showtime have been extremely supportive. Kudos to Wilder for not selling his soul, and placing an L on his record to make retirement money.

                  As stated through his reign he can make much more money. But with his humbleness he also knows what he has isalready enough for anyone. Wilder is not ducking the toughest fights that money will still come and at PBC’s gain.

                  Playing Hearns spin game how is Joshua’s feeling walking away from 50m plus PPV deal with a fight in the UK. That was a better than 50/50 deal.

                  AJ looked the part to beat Wilder at that time. He since regressed fighting bums. His jab was much stronger fighting Klitschko.

                  Bro your comment “appeared” harmless but it was just well written. We can’t let this Deontay Wilder is the biggest loser last Saturday argument ride.

                  We all know what happened on Saturday and who was in the ring when it took place. We all know who is in a panic and who’s investors are pissed at the mismanagement of a blue chip gold medal winner.

                  Cheers!!
                  Wilder's stock has just fallen. The only reason Showtime were paying him over the odds of what he was generating was due to AJ and the DAZN offer. Without AJ being around, Wilder would still be on 2 Mill a fight. Don't pretend otherwise.

                  So you admit Wilder would have had an L on his record had he took the AJ fight? But you're praising him for ducking like the coward he is? Ha.

                  And did you call this lying narcissistic ego maniac, humble? Haha. There is nothing humble about this piece of garbage. Only freaks and weirdos would suggest so.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
                    Wouldn’t you say that is a symptom of fighters and promoters not taking a risk due to a fear of having a loss?

                    Waiting out the comp till they look vulnerable wouldn’t need to happen if the environment didn’t punish fighters so severely for a defeat.
                    Americans are the only ones who do this. Don't excuse these cowards. Everybody else is willing to get it on without making extreme demands all the time. Funny thing is, even when Americans are offered extreme contracts their way, they still run like cowards and make their excuses.

                    Reading the bullshlt comments that you write it's no wonder all your fighters are weak and pathetic. They get their fighters from an environment that includes jokes like you. Cowardice and excuses non stop. I'd like to give you just a moments self awareness just so you can hang yourself in shame. That would do me grand.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by |DARKSEID| View Post
                      I don't know what to tell you man. If you think Joshua has any kind of a chance against wilder, after being easily beaten by ruiz, then maybe you just haven't been following boxing that long.

                      Maybe you didn't see the ruiz fight? Maybe you don't know what you're looking at?

                      I don't really have the time to explain the intricacies of boxing to you, it would take too long.

                      Joshua was exposed. He will most likely never fight wilder, because he himself knows he's in over his head, or if by some miracle he steps in for a paycheck, he will get brutally destroyed. Any real boxing fan who knows what they're looking at sees the same things I saw.
                      You could be heading for a shock then. Different styles make a huge difference. AJ wouldn't be making silly mistakes in getting in close and hooking with a hooker against Wilder because Wilder can't hook nor fight on the inside. And with AJ being much better at range than Wilder, the only thing to give you and Wilder any confidence is the Ruiz defeat. Wilder ducked for a reason. It's better to get in there and lose trying then to refuse to fight and be a coward like Wilder. Nothing is more pathetic in the combat world than this.

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