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  • Pigeons
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    #31
    My top 4 is the same: 1) Wilder 2) Fury 3) Ruiz 4) Joshua

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    • eco1
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      #32
      Originally posted by kushking
      I think Fury basically won but he couldn't punch his way out of a case of mallomars much less ko an elite HW. Him & BJS are two peas in a pod as far as having brad pitt in snatch boxing ability without any ko power.(though he has enough to keep monsters away)
      he only had to push a bit in the first fight. Wilder would have been gone if Fury would have pressed a little, but remember, that was not a 100% Fury.

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      • ELPacman
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        #33
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        Ridiculous. They have the guy that lost to Fury ahead of Fury.

        Ask yourself this, if Fury wasn't robbed would Wilder even be top 3? I don't think so.
        You can say what you want but in the end a draw is a draw on paper for both fighters. Fury didn't win. Wilder still has the belt. ESPN is right here. Until Fury gets the belt back or a belt, I don't think he will advance ahead of Wilder (unless Wilder loses of course).

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        • CauliflowerEars
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          #34
          Originally posted by kushking
          You fail to realize that espn is among the most biased networks around & that they're blatantly robbing fighters of their rightful place both financially & historically as far as legacy. They have votes in who gets picked for the hall of fame as well as fighter of the decade & foty etc. When these dirtbags have an agenda they can derail careers the same as corrupt judges like those that had parker beating Ruiz by robbery. I for 1 feel disgusted that the sport I love is controlled by blatantly transparent prejudiced mofos/conmen & ex stars trying to remain relevant by sheer biasedness.
          And you have every right to be as disgusted and pissed off as you want to be AND by whatever you choose to be disgusted or pissed off by. I respect yer passion. Maybe you can effect some real change.
          Just hope they don't rob you of a second of your joy and peace. That includes your fellow NSB community.
          Peace.

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          • kushking
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            #35
            Originally posted by ralex
            I think Wilder beats Fury next time they fight and beats Ruiz if they fight. I think Fury beats Ruiz too therefore I got Ruiz at 3
            Its all good but I added more reasoning to my comment you qouted. As I said imagine if Wilder had done remotely what Ruiz did( pre ruiz AJ was a heavy favorite over Wilder) As I said regardless if people now think Wilder beats Ruiz,he still has 3 belts & in more impressive fashion did to AJ what even Wilder didn't do to brazeale by making AJ quit,& to top it off he has been koing literal giants,he kod dimitrenko & made him look like a tiny stumblebum then on short notice obliterated AJ worse than almost any unified champ ever has been kod.

            Ruiz made Parker look as terrible as he ever has at home. Wilder has awful technical abilities he just has ko power which boxing has time & again proven can be nuetralized far easier than true elite technique.

            I just don't see why Ruiz is STILL being thought of as an also ran instead of as an impressive well rounded fighter whos never been kod & has a good Amatuer pedigree.
            Last edited by kushking; 06-04-2019, 07:25 PM.

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            • andocom
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              #36
              Originally posted by ELPacman
              You can say what you want but in the end a draw is a draw on paper for both fighters. Fury didn't win. Wilder still has the belt. ESPN is right here. Until Fury gets the belt back or a belt, I don't think he will advance ahead of Wilder (unless Wilder loses of course).
              That type of argument can be made both ways though, if you go with it was officially a draw and not take the subjective view of the scoring was poor and Fury really should have won (as most impartials did) then they should give Ruiz the same benefit, he just KO'd the #1 has 3 belts and should take his place.

              Wasn't Fury #2 & ahead of Wilder on ESPNs list directly after their fight or am I getting confused with Ring ratings?

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              • Zelda
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                #37
                There's a saying in my native language...sometimes the days are longer, sometimes the nights are longer...meaning nothing stays constant. There are ups and downs in life. Never be arrogant or think yourself better than your opponent.

                What a turn of events. From being an arrogant "A-side" and "having 4 belts" to being No. 4 and no belts.

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                • _Rexy_
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                  #38
                  Shocker Wilder went from 2 to 1 after he KO’s a top ten guy in 2 minutes.

                  More of a shocker. People mad.

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                  • _Rexy_
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kushking
                    Its all good but I added more reasoning to my comment you qouted. As I said imagine if Wilder had done remotely what Ruiz did( pre ruiz AJ was a heavy favorite over Wilder) As I said regardless if people now think Wilder beats Ruiz,he still has 3 belts & in more impressive fashion did to AJ what even Wilder didn't do to brazeale by making AJ quit,& to top it off he has been koing literal giants,he kod dimitrenko & made him look like a tiny stumblebum then on short notice obliterated AJ worse than almost any unified champ ever has been kod.

                    Ruiz made Parker look as terrible as he ever has at home. Wilder has awful technical abilities he just has ko power which boxing has time & again proven can be nuetralized far easier than true elite technique.

                    I just don't see why Ruiz is STILL being thought of as an also ran instead of as an impressive well rounded fighter whos never been kod & has a good Amatuer pedigree.
                    You know I’m a fan of Andy, but I’m guessing it’s more inactivity than anything. He stunned everyone making Joshua his *****, but most didn’t even have Andy in the top 15 before that (due to inactivity)

                    And they never bump guys like that after an upset to #1. If memory serves me right, Douglas was #4 by Ring when he was Undisputed Champ.

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                    • W1LL
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by larryxxx..
                      Povetkin has literally done nothing since he lost so how does that make any sense? and parker lost 2 in a row then beat a gut who was 17-1-1..your post stinks of biased
                      Bias against who? Oh, and swap Fury #1, Wilder #2.

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