AJ suffered a panic attack before the fight according to his father

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  • Mr.365
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    #261
    Real or not either way get well soon Josh & rest up good

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    • CauliflowerEars
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      #262
      Originally posted by sargo
      I don’t think he would have been able to fight after a true panic attack. Nervous maybe.
      Originally posted by alexguiness
      Panic attack...Truly pathetic if true.

      He was the Unified HW Champion of the world, not some triggered, transgender SJW.

      If you can't handle the fear of failure, then you deserve to lose.
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      Maybe Whyte’s stories about Joshua’s testosterone replacement therapy are legit...and necessary
      Originally posted by thecomedian2
      A Panic attack should not be taken lightly or is not a sign of weakness or cowardness.
      Originally posted by NC Uppercut
      I deal with them. They are effin brutal! Truth
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
      That sucks to hear.
      My wife gets legit panic attacks (not the 'I'm freaking out' bullshyt most girls think are panic attacks). She starts to hyperventilate, shake, her eyes look right through you, and she's both scared and violent at the same time. It is fking brutal. The one thing I've learned with her is to never let anything work her into a panic attack because once she's in that mode, all bets are off.
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I understand that but if this is real then he shouldn’t have been out there.
      First, let me be clear that I'm not commenting on the fight, on Joshua, his team or father, on Ruiz, on Wilder, or really anything to do with boxing specifically. My positions on all that noise are pretty neutral and rather boring, if I might say.
      This is specifically related to "panic attacks" and the various misconceptions that circulate the general public and platforms like this particular forum.

      As another poster eluded to, a panic attack has nothing to do with situational nervousness, weakness, cowardice, fear of failure, or mental instability. Well, I take that back. I imagine it would be related to the stability of one's mental state, but does not necessarily indicate mental weakness.

      Another poster mentioned dealing with his wife's onslaught of legitimate panic attacks. For several years, my wife also suffered from clinical, chronic panic attack illness. A clinical panic attack IS debilitating, contrary to layman's belief. There is no "function normally" immediately following a true panic attack.
      Before the condition was properly addressed with my wife, it cost me thousands of dollars in ambulance bills alone. On several occasions she passed out, turned a frightening shade of "pale", and lay motionless with her tongue paralyzed outside of her teeth. There are some signs or symptoms of an upcoming attack, but rest assured the actual attack is the ultimate worst. A "fear of one" does not produce the labored breathing, heart palpitations, low blood pressure, and illogical thoughts of impending doom, that accompany the actual attacks.

      Each time at the hospital, after numerous tests, they could find nothing seriously wrong with her, physically. Be that as it may, for a bystander or witness to these attacks, it is a highly disturbing and unnerving experience. People that minimize it or speak nonchalantly of it, are simply ignorant, clueless, or oblivious to the realities of it.

      In our case, there was never a specific or defining circumstance that brought on the panic attack. It is however, related to stress and the overall health of an individual's nervous system. It can also be hereditary. What it's NOT is, related to the "pressure of the moment", stage fright, nerves, "fear of failure", or jitters. There may be lesser degrees of a "panic attack", but a full-on panic attack will leave the recipient not only mentally incapacitated but physically unable to function normally, if at all, sometimes for days afterwards.

      Based on my personal experience and knowledge, there is no way a professional athlete, or person involved in ANY sort of high level performance, would be able to participate in, much less excel in, their required duties. Whether it be a doctor, lawyer, singer, actor, tree climber, child-care worker, or delivery man, you are much more likely to be at the hospital, than at your job, if you have a true panic attack.

      Again, this is no speculation or opinion whatsoever on Anthony Joshua having or not having panic attacks, anxiety, testosterone WD, or concussions. I haven't a clue what goes on behind his "closed doors" and don't care to hypothesize either way.
      I do believe a real panic attack is nothing to lie about, joke about, take lightly, or make fun of. It can disrupt your life and take the wind out of even the strongest sails. I encourage anyone suffering from this illness to seek medical help ASAP, so that they may resume a "normal" life, whatever that may be.

      Peace.

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      • Joe Beamish
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        #263
        In my non-medical opinion, panic attacks are a sign of something in your life being out of whack. In some way or other, you aren't right with yourself, or with something you're doing in your life. I had two panic attacks in my 20s and I hope I never experience one again. Once I got some distance and perspective, I understood I needed to change where I was living and what I was doing. Of course, the problem could also be with nutrition or drugs -- the things you're putting in your body.

        AJ will have to get to the bottom of what's causing the panic attack, and take it from there.

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        • CauliflowerEars
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          #264
          Originally posted by Joe Beamish
          In my non-medical opinion, panic attacks are a sign of something in your life being out of whack. In some way or other, you aren't right with yourself, or with something you're doing in your life. I had two panic attacks in my 20s and I hope I never experience one again. Once I got some distance and perspective, I understood I needed to change where I was living and what I was doing. Of course, the problem could also be with nutrition or drugs -- the things you're putting in your body.

          AJ will have to get to the bottom of what's causing the panic attack, and take it from there.
          I think your thoughts are a fair assessment or background on panic attacks. Of course everyone is different and handles issues uniquely. The make-up of a panic attack may be similar in nature, but vary in degree, frequency, and causality.

          Also I think it's completely hypothetical to assume AJ had or has ever had a panic attack. I believe the reports are far from confirmed and highly speculative. As you can see, there seem to be all kinds of rumors and allegations floating around social media. Don't you just love the electronic age ?

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          • alexguiness
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            #265
            'Panic attack' is a pretty good excuse for...anything.

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            • Main Source
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              #266
              Lewis vs McCall II

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