AJ Vs. Ruiz in Mexico, realistic or not?

[Eff Pandas]

I would say England, Vegas or LA rather than in Mexico.

Definitely.

I think a NYC rematch isn't off the short list either.

But I think the early favorite rematch location is on Joshua's turf. I think after taking an L like that its not even a great idea to do a immediate rematch but if you do you wanna put as many things in your favor as possible & the first one would be location.

Ruiz won, but lets not forget Joshua is STILL the money guy so he gots major pull if its not already defined where the fight is to take place at in the contract.

[The Big Dunn]

Definitely.

I think a NYC rematch isn't off the short list either.

But I think the early favorite rematch location is on Joshua's turf. I think after taking an L like that its not even a great idea to do a immediate rematch but if you do you wanna put as many things in your favor as possible & the first one would be location.

Ruiz won, but lets not forget Joshua is STILL the money guy so he gots major pull if its not already defined where the fight is to take place at in the contract.

True but AJ is probably best served to wait a while. I saw the replay and Ruiz was doing things AJ just couldn't handle. If Ruiz did this to him, imagine what Fury or Usyk would do or Wilder with his power.

AJ is still the money guy but right now the 4 fights people want to see most that would earn him the most money- Wilder, Ruiz rematch, Fury and Usyk- are not really good options right now.

Take some time, learn some skill, fight whyte in England. Win that and then if Ruiz is still champ, pay him extra to fight in England.

[Eff Pandas]

Your all forgetting the biggest factor , the engine that could
Dazn
Skipper wants to conquer the States not Mexico or UK
I think that would end up backfiring for Dazn
For what one fighter , they’ll be many more AJ’s to come especially if Dazn is in this for the long run

I get this & agree, but if Joshua gets blasted out by Ruiz again there isn't going to be much fanfare for Joshua's next US fight or in him being a potential player in the US market which is DAZN likely wants Joshua to be so they can do a long term deal with him.

And Ruiz isn't gonna be the draw Joshua could be & is likely just going back across the street when he's not obligated to fight on DAZN anymore.

So basically what good does a rematch in the US do DAZN if Joshua loses a 2nd time & Ruiz goes to PBC?

I think you gotta lean towards letting Joshua get the fight in as favorable situation as you can so Joshua can get his belts back ideally (which based on that L idk if I favor that to happen) & attempt a US 2.0 debut at a future date or you just forgo the rematch completely & make a all or nothing fight vs Wilder or Fury in the US that bounces Joshua ahead of Ruiz without needing to fight him again so soon if he were to win. That'd be a gamble for Joshua, but I think its a gamble he might be willing to take. I get the feeling Joshua doesn't look to take too many L's in his career so if he loses another fight or two maybe he retires & does some new sh^t. He's made too much money to be too f#cked up to not be able to count it.

[Eff Pandas]

True but AJ is probably best served to wait a while. I saw the replay and Ruiz was doing things AJ just couldn't handle. If Ruiz did this to him, imagine what Fury or Usyk would do or Wilder with his power.

AJ is still the money guy but right now the 4 fights people want to see most that would earn him the most money- Wilder, Ruiz rematch, Fury and Usyk- are not really good options right now.

Take some time, learn some skill, fight whyte in England. Win that and then if Ruiz is still champ, pay him extra to fight in England.

100% in agreement with you here. Idek wtf Eddie was talking about with a rematch in Nov/Dec after that type of L. I think a non-Ruiz fight next would be the preferred option & honestly I'd probably go lower than a Whyte rematch.

F#cking David Price might be on my short list lol.

That said I feel like Team Joshua does have some go big or go home mindset so I doubt they'd go too low in a non-Ruiz fight.

[MulaKO]

I get this & agree, but if Joshua gets blasted out by Ruiz again there isn't going to be much fanfare for Joshua's next US fight or in him being a potential player in the US market which is DAZN likely wants Joshua to be so they can do a long term deal with him.

And Ruiz isn't gonna be the draw Joshua could be & is likely just going back across the street when he's not obligated to fight on DAZN anymore.

So basically what good does a rematch in the US do DAZN if Joshua loses a 2nd time & Ruiz goes to PBC?

I think you gotta lean towards letting Joshua get the fight in as favorable situation as you can so Joshua can get his belts back ideally (which based on that L idk if I favor that to happen) & attempt a US 2.0 debut at a future date or you just forgo the rematch completely & make a all or nothing fight vs Wilder or Fury in the US that bounces Joshua ahead of Ruiz without needing to fight him again so soon if he were to win. That'd be a gamble for Joshua, but I think its a gamble he might be willing to take. I get the feeling Joshua doesn't look to take too many L's in his career so if he loses another fight or two maybe he retires & does some new sh^t. He's made too much money to be too f#cked up to not be able to count it.

First off , you never answered me
Did you see Ruiz shush his corner man so he can hear clearly what his trainer was saying
I don’t think I ever saw that in my life , that’s was fughin classic

Ok now , I get perfectly what your saying and this loss puts Dazn in a compromising situation
I just think Dazn is much bigger than AJ and probably want that last cashout with him on board
Make it or break it
Imo , they need to stay here and the show must go on
That’s the whole reason of them pouring this money out
By them not having the fight in America goes against everything they are attempting to do

I personally think , if this fight is promoted right , this thing could be fughin huge
Vegas , fight week , get the fighters on late night shows , get them on fughin Sesame Street , plaster them all over the place , bleed the fughin monkey dry
Ruiz , the fat Mexican heavyweight champion of the world, was it a fluke or will he eat his way to victory
Joshua , the poster boy for muscle , can he beat his demons and regain his titles
Anyways you get what I’m saying , so many ways of promoting this
It’s now , they gotta regroup and get this chit going
I really think this can be really really huge
Just gotta do it

[Eff Pandas]

First off , you never answered me
Did you see Ruiz shush his corner man so he can hear clearly what his trainer was saying
I don’t think I ever saw that in my life , that’s was fughin classic

LOL nah, but I'll have to go back & catch that part cuz it sonds funny.

I usually watch with the sound off. Commentators annoy the f#ck outta me these days (I'm DYING for DAZN to start doing alternate commentary like Fight Pass was doing so we can have a serious team & a fun team). I'll sometimes turn on the sound for the corner instructions, but I think I was so shocked with how this fight was going I didn't really do that this time.

Ok now , I get perfectly what your saying and this loss puts Dazn in a compromising situation
I just think Dazn is much bigger than AJ and probably want that last cashout with him on board

Oh no doubt DAZN is bigger than Joshua, but Joshua could be a nice addition to their platform + those titles have value to them so if they aren't trying to secure Ruiz if he repeats Saturday night I'd be surprised.

Make it or break it
Imo , they need to stay here and the show must go on
That’s the whole reason of them pouring this money out
By them not having the fight in America goes against everything they are attempting to do

I personally think , if this fight is promoted right , this thing could be fughin huge
Vegas , fight week , get the fighters on late night shows , get them on fughin Sesame Street , plaster them all over the place , bleed the fughin monkey dry
Ruiz , the fat Mexican heavyweight champion of the world, was it a fluke or will he eat his way to victory
Joshua , the poster boy for muscle , can he beat his demons and regain his titles
Anyways you get what I’m saying , so many ways of promoting this
It’s now , they gotta regroup and get this chit going
I really think this can be really really huge
Just gotta do it

If Joshua had some history in the US I think this makes more sense, but with his grand US opening being a grand US closing idk that its huge anywhere except in the UK. I'm not buying that Ruiz future fights are gonna look like Canelo shows.

To many US fans Joshua is just the guy who looks like a movie version of a HW champion who got KTFO by a overweight guy. And idk that thats selling them a lot of seats, but maybe I'm wrong idk. I'll be curious to see how well Ruiz does with gates &/or PPV's or w/e he does in the future if he gets by Joshua again cuz a Mexican HW champ IS a whole new thing so maybe I am discounting the heights Ruiz can reach for merely being Mexican.

[4truth]

My first reaction is that it isn't realistic BUT can you imagine the live gate if the fight were held at Aztec stadium in Mexico City? With the extra field seats added to the nearly 90,000 seats already there, the fight might challenge the attendance record of 120,000 for Dempsey/Tunney.

On the other hand, can you imagine these two trying to fight at an elevation of 7,200 feet? ...yeah forget that idea. Do it in Vegas


Vegas is where the fight should be