I was wrong about Wilder/Joshua

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  • wlad1111
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    #11
    just because Ruiz beat Joshua doesn't mean Wilder would. There is a good chance Ruiz might beat Wilder too.

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    • Blackclouds
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      #12
      Originally posted by wlad1111
      just because Ruiz beat Joshua doesn't mean Wilder would. There is a good chance Ruiz might beat Wilder too.
      You're delusional at this point.

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      • wlad1111
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        #13
        Originally posted by Blackclouds
        You're delusional at this point.
        It's not like Wilder looked amazing in all of his fights. When he fights an opponent that is not completely tailor-made for him he struggles and only wins because of his right hand. Sure Joshua is flawed too but to think Wilder beating Joshua is the foregone conclusion is delusional.

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        • Curt Henning
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          #14
          Originally posted by wlad1111
          It's not like Wilder looked amazing in all of his fights. When he fights an opponent that is not completely tailor-made for him he struggles and only wins because of his right hand. Sure Joshua is flawed too but to think Wilder beating Joshua is the foregone conclusion is delusional.
          He lands that right hand on everyone....it's not coincidence at this point

          Wilder faced two of the top 5 hws in the last year and a half and put them down 5x

          Stop acting like it's an accident

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          • wlad1111
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            #15
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            He lands that right hand on everyone....it's not coincidence at this point

            Wilder faced two of the top 5 hws in the last year and a half and put them down 5x

            Stop acting like it's an accident
            I never said it was an accident but I would say it makes him one dimensional. I would actually favor him against Joshua at this point but just because Joshua lost to a good fighter doesn't mean he is bum all of the sudden and it doesn't mean Wilder would win for sure.

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            • Curt Henning
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              #16
              Originally posted by wlad1111
              I never said it was an accident but I would say it makes him one dimensional. I would actually favor him against Joshua at this point but just because Joshua lost to a good fighter doesn't mean he is bum all of the sudden and it doesn't mean Wilder would win for sure.
              That one dimension rears its head every time

              Sure nothing is automatic or 100 percent guaranteed

              It's the way aj lost though ....gassed...wanting no more ....getting hit ....showing a percieved lack of heart

              And people knowing Wilder is almost the exact opposite....Wilder is a killer and wants it ....ur really going to have to hurt him to finish him

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              • wlad1111
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                #17
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                That one dimension rears its head every time

                Sure nothing is automatic or 100 percent guaranteed

                It's the way aj lost though ....gassed...wanting no more ....getting hit ....showing a percieved lack of heart

                And people knowing Wilder is almost the exact opposite....Wilder is a killer and wants it ....ur really going to have to hurt him to finish him
                Joshua until Ruiz fight was never truly punished for having too much muscle and being stiff. This is boxing not body building. I have no idea how wilder would react if his stamina was this bad. Wilder got hurt before but I have never seen him even close to being as gassed as Joshua. Joshua needs to stop weight lifting and do more cardio.

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                • uppercut510
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                  #18
                  yeah I knew if wilder landed he'd beat aj and aj is there to land on with poor stamina... but I always thought aj would at least give him some trouble for a few rounds, not anymore. I was never sold on the aj hype. he himself is a good guy and it seems like all the hype and pressure from hearn and the fanatics made him mentally fold because he knew himself he wasn't on the level they were making him out to be, thus the psychiatrist and mental breakdown b4 the fight.

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                  • uppercut510
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by wlad1111
                    It's not like Wilder looked amazing in all of his fights. When he fights an opponent that is not completely tailor-made for him he struggles and only wins because of his right hand. Sure Joshua is flawed too but to think Wilder beating Joshua is the foregone conclusion is delusional.
                    wilder somewhat uses his jab whereas aj cant jab to save his life and gets tired, ruiz can catch wilder in a mix up but if wilder fights smart and doesn't gas (he has a tank) he will KO ruiz imo
                    Last edited by uppercut510; 06-03-2019, 09:10 AM.

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Daud
                      I was saying Wilder ducked Joshua because I thought Wilder was the B fighter and should have taken 40% to fight Joshua in England but I admit now Wilder is the "A" fighter and understand why Hearn was protecting Joshua from him.
                      You are absolutely right. That was why old man Barry Hearn said that he preferred prolonging the Deontay Wilder fight for as long as possible; Even until 2020 because he, McCracken and Eddie all knew how vulnerable Anthony Joshua was.

                      He is chinny, has bad stamina and can't take a punch. He would have survived the onslaught had he been in there with an old, washed out and past his prime Wladimir Klitschko or perhaps even Luis Ortiz but not against someone his own age and peer.

                      He wouldn't have survived it.

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