Whose bright idea was it to choose Andy Ruiz as the opponent for Joshua?

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  • O Prophet
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    Whose bright idea was it to choose Andy Ruiz as the opponent for Joshua?

    First fight in the US "coming to America", people just wanted to see Joshua destroy someone. For a late replacement, they should have chosen a no hoper like Bryant Jennings or Manuel Charr, a decent name that he could easily destroy. And people would have loved it.

    Instead they chose Andy Ruiz Jr who has a loss vs Parker. The same Parker AJ already beat. So what's there to gain by fighting this guy? Guy is a typical high risk low reward opponent. Fast counter puncher with power who is coming off of lots of KO wins.

    For a late replacement it's especially dangerous since Ruiz fights nothing like Miller. Also when you're fighting in the US for the first time and the ref/arena/fans won't be under your control, you need to play it safe.

    Who the hell choose Ruiz to be AJ's "coming to America" opponent?
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    I totally see what you’re saying. But i just appreciate they actually put on the fight and aj went through with it. He is a risk but champs are supposed to take those and ruiz was really someone a prime aj should have destroyed. It looked as if he had a terrible training camp and was out of shape. I feel like he was the one avoiding wilder and fury now for good reason
    I remember hearn said in the postfight interview that manuel charr and trevor bryan were both considered because of what you said they would just be canon fodder

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    • _Rexy_
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      #3
      They picked someone who had gone 5 rounds in almost two years and is 35% body fat.

      This WAS an attempted cherry pick.

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      • Eddy Current
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        Dude, if they needed to find an easier touch than Ruiz to be confident then Joshua is no champion anyway. Avoiding Andy Ruiz is about as bad of look as losing to Ruiz.

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        • hugh grant
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          I always thought ruiz was A dangerous opponent as he went distance with parker. And parker said ruiz hit him hardest.
          I wonder where ruiz was ranked and if he wasnt a top ten heavyweight then why wasn't he?

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          • MONGOOSE66
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            #6
            Originally posted by O Prophet
            First fight in the US "coming to America", people just wanted to see Joshua destroy someone. For a late replacement, they should have chosen a no hoper like Bryant Jennings or Manuel Charr, a decent name that he could easily destroy. And people would have loved it.

            Instead they chose Andy Ruiz Jr who has a loss vs Parker. The same Parker AJ already beat. So what's there to gain by fighting this guy? Guy is a typical high risk low reward opponent. Fast counter puncher with power who is coming off of lots of KO wins.

            For a late replacement it's especially dangerous since Ruiz fights nothing like Miller. Also when you're fighting in the US for the first time and the ref/arena/fans won't be under your control, you need to play it safe.

            Who the hell choose Ruiz to be AJ's "coming to America" opponent?
            Wow, im american and ive never heard of Ruiz. Hes NO mike Tyson and Lewis handled Tyson.
            Ruiz is custom built for a long tall fighter. Where things went wrong was AJ wasnt prepared. He also wasnt in shape. Probably took the fight lightly. He also didnt respond well as a fighter. He looked mentally whipped. I believe AJ can beat Ruiz but im not sure he will.

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            • _Rexy_
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              #7
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              I always thought ruiz was A dangerous opponent as he went distance with parker. And parker said ruiz hit him hardest.
              I wonder where ruiz was ranked and if he wasnt a top ten heavyweight then why wasn't he?
              Inactivity. Andy was top ten tbrb and ring before the Parker fight

              (I’m 100% about tbrb. Don’t quote me on Ring)

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              • deathofaclown
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                #8
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                I always thought ruiz was A dangerous opponent as he went distance with parker. And parker said ruiz hit him hardest.
                I wonder where ruiz was ranked and if he wasnt a top ten heavyweight then why wasn't he?
                Because he hadn’t beaten anyone good and his only notable fight was a close loss to Parker in a fight that could’ve gone either way.

                He has ability but in his one big chance before this one, he didn’t do enough to get the win.

                Some will say Ruiz beat Parker but the truth is opinion was split. I though it was a draw or Parker edged it.

                He had done nothing before or since then to show he’s a top heavyweight.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  Inactivity. Andy was top ten tbrb and ring before the Parker fight

                  (I’m 100% about tbrb. Don’t quote me on Ring)
                  Originally posted by deathofaclown
                  Because he hadn’t beaten anyone good and his only notable fight was a close loss to Parker in a fight that could’ve gone either way.

                  He has ability but in his one big chance before this one, he didn’t do enough to get the win.

                  Some will say Ruiz beat Parker but the truth is opinion was split. I though it was a draw or Parker edged it.

                  He had done nothing before or since then to show he’s a top heavyweight.
                  Sure, but traditionally a lot of top 10 heavyweights don't seem to have done much after 20 fights.
                  Ruiz has a 30 win, one loss resume and by all accounts he's takented. That's usually enough to grab attention.

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                  • deathofaclown
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Sure, but traditionally a lot of top 10 heavyweights don't seem to have done much after 20 fights.
                    Ruiz has a 30 win, one loss resume and by all accounts he's takented. That's usually enough to grab attention.
                    Well he was considered a top 10 before Parker but hadn’t done a great deal since.

                    At the end of the day, rankings don’t reflect reality a lot of the time. It’s often a reflection on your opportunities rather than abilities.

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