Does a Ruiz vs Joshua rematch have to be in the UK?

[KTFOKING]

Thing is Joshua beating Ruiz is probably better for DAZN than Ruiz beating Joshua again so I could see them back up off of making the rematch in the US & let it happen in the UK where Joshua would likely have some more edges.

Or DAZN will make a deal with Ruiz before the rematch happens. Thats the other angle I'd argue. Cuz the thing with Ruiz is I don't believe he's contractually made any deal with Matchroom beyond a rematch (& I'd speculate an option after that) so if Ruiz beats Joshua or Joshua & another guy he's right back on PBC which is an L for DAZN.

So DAZN is either gonna wanna help lean things Joshua's way or need to sign Ruiz to a deal & then they can care less who wins the rematch or where it takes place.

Also worth noting Joshua might not be with DAZN post last night &/or there is still a matching rights deal so I suspect there is some live dog potential in Fury vs Joshua or some other Joshua vs a non-Ruiz opponent that could happen or put Joshua in play on another platform besides DAZN. So maybe some bigger shakeup potential here although I'd bet against it I do think its a possibility.

That's why I made a thread saying what type of offer should DAZN make to Ruiz? I don't know if they have any option on him aside from the rematch. Definitely something they look at now if they didn't before this fight.

Does a Joshua vs Ruiz do comparable numbers to Canelo vs Jacobs?

[Eff Pandas]

That's why I made a thread saying what type of offer should DAZN make to Ruiz? I don't know if they have any option on him aside from the rematch. Definitely something they look at now if they didn't before this fight.

Does a Joshua vs Ruiz do comparable numbers to Canelo vs Jacobs?

I don't think DAZN gots to bust the bank open to sign Ruiz.

And I tend to think Matchroom will have an rematch clause + an option so that'll give DAZN a lil wiggly room with trying to setup Ruiz in a less favorable rematch situation while still allowing them to sign him if he beats Joshua again. Then if you can't make a deal you throw him in with Usyk (if he proves himself at HW) or someone who's likely to be problematic for him. Cuz even a Joshua with an L has bigger potential than Ruiz likely will in the US or worldwide. Joshua looks the part of HW champion. Ruiz looks like a guy from a fast food ad.

And I doubt the fight had as many watching as Canelo vs Jacobs. No one was really a Ruiz fan before today & Joshua isn't really a big deal in the US like he could become yet. But I'll be curious what gets said about the viewing numbers if the leak for last night at some point.

[KTFOKING]

I don't think DAZN gots to bust the bank open to sign Ruiz.

And I tend to think Matchroom will have an rematch clause + an option so that'll give DAZN a lil wiggly room with trying to setup Ruiz in a less favorable rematch situation while still allowing them to sign him if he beats Joshua again. Then if you can't make a deal you throw him in with Usyk (if he proves himself at HW) or someone who's likely to be problematic for him. Cuz even a Joshua with an L has bigger potential than Ruiz likely will in the US or worldwide. Joshua looks the part of HW champion. Ruiz looks like a guy from a fast food ad.

And I doubt the fight had as many watching as Canelo vs Jacobs. No one was really a Ruiz fan before today & Joshua isn't really a big deal in the US like he could become yet. But I'll be curious what gets said about the viewing numbers if the leak for last night at some point.

I'm saying does the rematch do as good numbers as Canelo vs Jacobs? Obviously the buzz from yesterday's fight was huge and will help the rematch.

Maybe they do have an option for the rematch plus another. If so, Hearn is going to try to get Usyk to enforce his mandatory and feed Ruiz to him. But I think all they have Ruiz for is the rematch.

[Eff Pandas]

I'm saying does the rematch do as good numbers as Canelo vs Jacobs? Obviously the buzz from yesterday's fight was huge and will help the rematch.

Idk too few details at this point. Does a rematch even happen? Is it happening in the US or the UK? If its in the US I suspect it'll be bigger than the first fight cuz it'll be seen as a real fight this time, but idk about bigger than a Canelo fight vs a legit guy.

Maybe they do have an option for the rematch plus another. If so, Hearn is going to try to get Usyk to enforce his mandatory and feed Ruiz to him. But I think all they have Ruiz for is the rematch.

What makes you say that? I've always thought a rematch + a option is more standard than just a rematch if you win. Just doesn't happen so much that a rematch is warranted or even when a guy upsets someone they lose the rematch so its declined or not getting much attention.

And honestly if I'm Eddie I'm probably using the option before the rematch if I got it cuz idk what Joshua does different to win a rematch. I think you setup Ruiz up vs a tough guy like Whyte or Usyk who I think outright beats Ruiz & hope he loses or goes off the rails (& he'll go off the rails sooner or later, be weighing in at 310lbs or some sh^t). Then you get Joshua vs Whyte II or Joshua vs Usyk for the belts or just get a Ruiz who's had more time on his hands & had some time to f#ck sh^t up to come in lesser in the rematch &/or give Joshua more time to work on some sh^t that he can work on.

[KTFOKING]

Idk too few details at this point. Does a rematch even happen? Is it happening in the US or the UK? If its in the US I suspect it'll be bigger than the first fight cuz it'll be seen as a real fight this time, but idk about bigger than a Canelo fight vs a legit guy.



What makes you say that? I've always thought a rematch + a option is more standard than just a rematch if you win. Just doesn't happen so much that a rematch is warranted or even when a guy upsets someone they lose the rematch so its declined or not getting much attention.

And honestly if I'm Eddie I'm probably using the option before the rematch if I got it cuz idk what Joshua does different to win a rematch. I think you setup Ruiz up vs a tough guy like Whyte or Usyk who I think outright beats Ruiz & hope he loses or goes off the rails (& he'll go off the rails sooner or later, be weighing in at 310lbs or some sh^t). Then you get Joshua vs Whyte II or Joshua vs Usyk for the belts or just get a Ruiz who's had more time on his hands & had some time to f#ck sh^t up to come in lesser in the rematch &/or give Joshua more time to work on some sh^t that he can work on.

I mean why would you think he has an additional option here on Ruiz? This was a late replacement opponent and not sure if Haymon would have been fine with that. The typical rematch clause? Sure, but another fight after that? Not sure about that.

I do think the rematch happens. Joshua needs those belts back to regain his stature as the top dog of the division.

If Joshua doesn't take the rematch, then doesn't Pulev get his mandatory shot? Just can't see him not taking the rematch.

[Bmore18]

I mean why would you think he has an additional option here on Ruiz? This was a late replacement opponent and not sure if Haymon would have been fine with that. The typical rematch clause? Sure, but another fight after that? Not sure about that.

I do think the rematch happens. Joshua needs those belts back to regain his stature as the top dog of the division.

If Joshua doesn't take the rematch, then doesn't Pulev get his mandatory shot? Just can't see him not taking the rematch.

IBF might call the mando anyway and Ruiz might lose the IBF strap because its lame

[KTFOKING]

IBF might call the mando anyway and Ruiz might lose the IBF strap because its lame

They will let Joshua exercise his rematch clause. But if he waits? Then the IBF mandatory gets called soon.

[2ndroundko]

no, hearn confirmed it doesnt have to be in the uk.

[Eff Pandas]

I mean why would you think he has an additional option here on Ruiz? This was a late replacement opponent and not sure if Haymon would have been fine with that. The typical rematch clause? Sure, but another fight after that? Not sure about that.

I do think the rematch happens. Joshua needs those belts back to regain his stature as the top dog of the division.

If Joshua doesn't take the rematch, then doesn't Pulev get his mandatory shot? Just can't see him not taking the rematch.

I've just heard of rematch + option deals when a guy actually wins the rematch. Generally we don't get past the rematch is the thing. The L gets avenged & maybe the guy has a bs fight with the promoter or the promoter just opts out of the option at that point cuz there is no value in keeping him around necessarily for what the pay range is for that option.

And sh^t man I think you are discounting Joshua's drawing power. I think the rematch is the most likely route myself, but Joshua could fight David Price next & people will show up in the UK to see it.

[LetOutTheCage]

Doubtful given how hard DAZN and Hearn have been pushing for the US market