Why are Wilder fans celebrating AJs loss?

[LacedUp]

It was a flat fee equivalent to what Parker was getting for a far more lucrative fight. I think we can agree that offer was sent knowing it would be rejected. If you were on Wilder's team you'd have rejected it.

It can't possibly seem like that when I clearly acknowledge why the fight didn't happen now. All I ask is that we start the story from the beginning and not the middle.

So you're saying they offered the fight, because they didn't want it because they knew AJ was chinny? And increased the offer twice subsequently, and sending a contract?

As well as offering a 60/40 deal, before then offering a two fight deal for 80million.

I know you're an Al Haymon fan, but it's clear who really wanted the fight all the way through.

[Robbie Barrett]

He didn't run from anything. His manager wouldn't let him sign a DAZN deal. His manager then put in a low level guy from his stable who beat the crap out of AJ. he is getting clowned because he lost as an 11-1 favorite against a short, fat dude he showed absolutely no respect.

After he turned down the offer, he then said he wouldn't fight even for 50/50 and proceeded to sign 2 fights to avoid future negotiations. That's running.

[The Big Dunn]

So you're saying they offered the fight, because they didn't want it because they knew AJ was chinny? And increased the offer twice subsequently, and sending a contract?

As well as offering a 60/40 deal, before then offering a two fight deal for 80million.

I know you're an Al Haymon fan, but it's clear who really wanted the fight all the way through.

I didn't say anything like that.

The initial offer was designed to be rejected. I think we can agree on that. The $100 million deal-we know why Haymon wouldn't let Wilder sign it. I haven't suggested Haymon didn't block it now.

[uppercut510]

lmaoooooooo Robbie barrett and lacedup are talking about everything except aj getting destroyed on Saturday by a guy who took the fight on 5 weeks notice that eats snicker bars 4x a day!

[uppercut510]

So you're saying they offered the fight, because they didn't want it because they knew AJ was chinny? And increased the offer twice subsequently, and sending a contract?

As well as offering a 60/40 deal, before then offering a two fight deal for 80million.

I know you're an Al Haymon fan, but it's clear who really wanted the fight all the way through.

ruiz ruined the plans he beat aj pillar to post

[LacedUp]

I didn't say anything like that.

The initial offer was designed to be rejected. I think we can agree on that. The $100 million deal-we know why Haymon wouldn't let Wilder sign it. I haven't suggested Haymon didn't block it now.

It was a low offer, that's true. We can agree on that, but it was designed to re-negotiate imo.

Out of the two camps, AJs has been the far more aggressive in trying to get that fight over the line.

[The Big Dunn]

After he turned down the offer, he then said he wouldn't fight even for 50/50 and proceeded to sign 2 fights to avoid future negotiations. That's running.

He said what his manager told him to say. You can pretend all you want but you know why Haymon wouldn't let him sign the dazn deal. If you have to blame wilder for that, so be it.

The story from this weekend is AJ getting destroyed and humbled. Haymon gave him another guy to fight so Thanks to Haymon for giving Hearn a fighter so the card didn't have to be canceled.

[The Big Dunn]

It was a low offer, that's true. We can agree on that, but it was designed to re-negotiate imo.

Out of the two camps, AJs has been the far more aggressive in trying to get that fight over the line.

AJ was definitely winning the PR war, without question. As the clear a side, he can get any fight made if he really wants it by having his promoter offer a fair deal.

It isn't a coincidence that Parker, Wilder, Whyte and Ortiz all complained about the initial offers they got on paper.

All I ask is we start the story from the beginning. I have no problem acknowledging that Haymon blocked the fight most recently. We all know why he did.

[uppercut510]

AJ was definitely winning the PR war, without question. As the clear a side, he can get any fight made if he really wants it by having his promoter offer a fair deal.

It isn't a coincidence that Parker, Wilder, Whyte and Ortiz all complained about the initial offers they got on paper.

All I ask is we start the story from the beginning. I have no problem acknowledging that Haymon blocked the fight most recently. We all know why he did.

in their eyes aj and hearn are 100% innocent, they are unreasonable, we all know hearn messed everything up at first and then haymon blocked that dazn deal so its nothing to argue about its all documented... but their buy got embarrassed Saturday and QUIT...

[uppercut510]

Why are you projecting the pain and hurt of Joshua's losing to Andy Ruiz, Jr on Saturday night onto Deontay Wilder by blaming him for the loss?

The myth and the legend of AJ is gone. It doesn't exist anymore and have been totally debunked by one of the most over achieving Heavyweight fighters in history in Andy Ruiz, Jr.

He proved that Anthony Joshua is a not a super hero after all. He is just as human as everyone else.

and he QUIT live on tv in front of everyone in America,