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  • MulaKO
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    #21
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    HEARN ruined him now? If you can't take on a fat midget you aren't HW champion of the world.
    This OP is losing his fking mind now that his savior is dead.
    Your fughin right
    Before the fight the op would of killed for Hearn and Joshua
    Now it’s his fault
    What a fughin joke
    At least half the other fan girls just didn’t log on
    Thank the fughin lord

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #22
      Originally posted by MartialMind
      The US is still the main-stage for boxing.

      For about 100 years being a Heavyweight champ was synonymous with fighting and winning in America.
      Yea, and that's the way it is and that's exactly why AJ was brought to the US like many Brits before him. Doesn't make the US "better", it's just the way the biz works.

      AJ had a lot of questions floating around his chin and stamina that most of us started to overlook. Well, you take a guy out of his comfort zone and those things are magnified. And, without a ref who is gonna assist you, the truth will come out.

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      • GelfSara
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        #23
        Originally posted by baroidi
        Hearn built Joshua up with smoke and mirrors, it's just a reality check for all his fanbois who thought he was gonna be an ATG comparable to Lewis. Joshua is very robotic with a suspect chin and horrible conditioning because of his overly inflated muscles. I've always said Joshua reminded me of Michael Grant, but Grant was a lot more fluid and he fought in the 90s HW golden era.
        Time will tell; Lewis had a comparable chin; Andy Ruiz is probably better than either Oliver McCall or Hasim Rahman. Interestingly, Lewis beat all the boxers who were viewed as serious threats while losing to two obscure underdogs; perhaps this pattern will hold true for Joshua as well (I doubt it; I certainly agree that Lewis looks much more fluid and gifted as a fighter and has better instincts under pressure).

        My impression is that Joshua is being trained in generic fashion by Rob McCracken--the man who trained Carl Froch--and that his training neither lacks for "cardio" nor emphasizes resistance training to an unusual degree*. If so--and I'd love to learn more about how Joshua trains--it may be that his poor stamina and impressive physique are both built into his phenotype and will always be with him, regardless of how he trains. Certainly Joshua is a fast-twitch fiber-laden individual: https://********/KJMIwlQB-28


        *Not, of course, to suggest that these are mutually exclusive modes of training; witness Arthur Jones's study at West Point, "Project Total Conditioning": https://www.cbass.com/ArthurJones2.htm

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        • Sid-Knee
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          #24
          Originally posted by Vinnykin
          Don't forget his most famous win when he relieved Klitschko of all the belts in Germany..... that seems an important one to miss out
          He's talking about fights in the UK and US. Fury beat Wlad in Germany.

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            #25
            Ruined him by putting a champion in a real fight?

            Brits need protected.

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              #26
              Originally posted by baroidi
              Hearn built Joshua up with smoke and mirrors, it's just a reality check for all his fanbois who thought he was gonna be an ATG comparable to Lewis. Joshua is very robotic with a suspect chin and horrible conditioning because of his overly inflated muscles. I've always said Joshua reminded me of Michael Grant, but Grant was a lot more fluid and he fought in the 90s HW golden era.
              This happens with a lot of British fighters. They are built up fighting carefully selected opponents. Then the fighter's ego gets very large then they finally fight a tough young top 10 guy and they lose or they go on a very good, but very short run of solid victories before losing then their career never recovers and they never get to where they originally thought they would get. Yes they may win a title again down the road in their career, but they are never considered the best again. Sometimes they completely fall apart after that first loss.

              Fighters such as Joshua, Harrison, Cleverly, Price, Eubank Jr, Hatton, Hamed have all fallen victim to some degree of what I stated above (next in line will be C. Smith). They were never as good as the UK, their promoter, and their ego's thought they were.
              Last edited by jdp28tx; 06-02-2019, 08:21 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by MartialMind
                The US is still the main-stage for boxing.

                For about 100 years being a Heavyweight champ was synonymous with fighting and winning in America.
                You watch the crowds AJ pulls in the UK and think this? Nah, that's crazy. Just because something was at some point, doesn't mean it remains forever.

                We once had an empire. We don't now. They rise and fall. It's just the nature of the beast.

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                • MartialMind
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  You watch the crowds AJ pulls in the UK and think this? Nah, that's crazy. Just because something was at some point, doesn't mean it remains forever.

                  We once had an empire. We don't now. They rise and fall. It's just the nature of the beast.
                  If AJ loses his Ruiz rematch we'll see if the crowds still follow?

                  Also that's more AJ specifically than boxing in the UK as a whole. How come Fury isn't pulling those insane numbers in his home country?

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                  • FinitoxDinamita
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                    #29
                    One loss means nothing. It’s how he comes back, I thought this was common knowledge.

                    It’s a problem if he loses the rematch though. I cant imagine Joshua coming back from a second loss to Ruiz.

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                      #30
                      What is this "he struggles with shorter boxers" bs I keep seeing since last night. The mfer is 6'6. Damn near EVERYONE he's boxed has been shorter than him.

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