Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Promises That Wilder Will Never Make it To Fury Fight

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Luis Ortiz couldn't have been more thrilled when he received word of plans being finalized for his rematch with Deontay Wilder. The Cuban southpaw couldn't have been more annoyed, though, when he saw the unbeaten titlist was already making plans beyond their upcoming sequel.
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[A.K]

People are forgetting the fact that Ortiz was winning till the KO, wilder could lose this fight only he would get called ducking for fighting ortiz.

[Phenom]

Disrespecting Ortiz like this

[Mammoth]

People are forgetting the fact that Ortiz was winning till the KO

They had no issues with Ortiz till Wilder beat him. The Brits were even saying Breazeal was better than Ortiz.

[Guest]

If he wins, we just get fight 3.

The first one was pretty exciting so I don't mind if the second one is similar to the first.

[Gillie]

People are forgetting the fact that Ortiz was winning till the KO, wilder could lose this fight only he would get called ducking for fighting ortiz.

Wasn't Wilder slightly ahead when the knockout happened?

[SN!PER]

If you pull up the old RBR thread, a lot of people had Ortiz winning on points, and they were going crazy in round 7 saying that Wilder was finished!

Wilder is doing what the honorable Lennox Lewis did, rematching his toughest opponents in order to earn conclusive victories.

[champion4ever]

King Kong do your thing man! You are one of my favorite heavyweight fighters next to Deontay Wilder. I hope you receive a career high of at least a $3 mil guaranteed purse split. In addition, to a percentage of the per pay view buys. Which would net you upwards to at least $8 to $9mil or more.

[OldTerry]

Wasn't Wilder slightly ahead when the knockout happened?

That is my opinion. Also looked only a matter of time until Wilder would KO Ortiz as well and then round seven happened. Ortiz had nothing after that.

[Boxing Logic]

If you pull up the old RBR thread, a lot of people had Ortiz winning on points, and they were going crazy in round 7 saying that Wilder was finished!

Wilder is doing what the honorable Lennox Lewis did, rematching his toughest opponents in order to earn conclusive victories.

That's because Wilder is an overhyped protected privileged (within boxing only, I make no judgement on his life outside of boxing and I'm sure he was the opposite of privileged before he signed with Haymon in boxing, so don't misconstrue my meaning. I mean only in boxing) hypejob so even 40 year old Ortiz was beating him the first half of the fight. But then what all objective boxing fans said the whole time was the case showed itself, that Ortiz is old, and so he gassed very badly and didn't have the stamina to follow up round after round when Wilder was in a bad spot.

It's just like in May-Pac, Pac hurt Floyd in the 4th round, threw a few more punches, then stopped and moved back because he wanted to conserve energy. In the 4th *****ing round. Prime Pacquiao never had to conserve energy even in the 12th round. He could go like the energizer bunny and keep hurting his opponent with combinations over and over until they couldn't take anymore or went into survival mode so Pacquiao could win on points.

That's why these duckers wait for guys to get old. There's a specific reason they do that. If they are overrated hypejobs like Wilder, then even when the opponent is old, they might still make the opponent look good for a few rounds, even 7 rounds, but at some point, the age will factor in, either taking away speed, power, stamina, punch resistance, or all of them. Old Ortiz hurt Wilder, but never dropped him. The greater velocity and force of prime Ortiz's punch might have dropped him. The greater stamina and punch resistance of prime athletes would have allowed Ortiz to keep up the assault when Wilder was hurt, instead of letting up and letting Wilder recover and get a second win and get back into it, and it might have allowed Ortiz to take more punches without being out on his feet himself, which would have given Ortiz a better chance of making the final bell and winning on points.

That is, if the refs weren't in Wilder's corner just like the doctor and ref and everyone else is always in the A-side's corner in these fight...

See how they sort of fix these fights in many ways without actually fixing them? You control the timing of the fight, and you control the commission under which the fight takes place (which means the ref, judges, doctor, etc), then you've already gone 90% of the way to controlling who wins the fight.

You brought up Lennox Lewis, but Lewis actually won his fights himself. And he fought prime top opponents. Wilder is part of the PBC protection program where fights are won for him by waiting until opponents are old before fighting them, and the other factors I described. Even VADA played an unusual role in the first fight, putting Ortiz on extra intensive VADA testing that he did not choose. Even when Canelo tested positive, he was not put on that same program for the same length of time without breaks.

See how the rules only apply to the B-sides, not the A-sides? Reminds me of politics today in Washington where the rules only seem to apply in one direction lol, but that's another story.