Comments Thread For: Matchroom CEO Sees No Reason Wilder To Face Ortiz Again

[Bronx2245]

And you think Al Haymon will allow this to happen!?

It's not up to Al Haymon, it's up to the WBC! The WBC has multiple Champions (Ramirez, Gvozdyk, Canelo, Berchelt, Vargas, Ouabaali) from multiple promoters. Haymon doesn't own the WBC, and Deontay can't afford to drop a belt like Canelo and GGG did! I hope they order the mandatory (Whyte or Rivas), and I hope they order Canelo vs. Charlo too!

[Eff Pandas]

It’s gonna be 2 in 9 after Kownacki

Funny how the wbc rankings work these days

Finkel seems to be suggesting Fury will be after Ortiz. So idk, but either way Wilder AND Joshua are fighting a bunch of PBC guys. And yea Wilder is fighting more PBC guys (5/7 vs Joshua's 4/8).

[ceylon mooney]

I really hoped that they would've had Ortiz fight Kownacki for the right to face Wilder! I hope the WBC mandates Wilder to fight the winner of Whyte vs. Rivas next, instead of Kownacki!

i like YOUR matchmaking my brother! heck yea. much more interesting.

[Queen_Leia]

You know something, I am a Wilder fan.....I AM A WILDER FAN!!!

While Joshua is a good boxer, I was always meh to him. When Eddie Hearn said about 4 weeks ago that Wilder secretly signed a 3 fight contract with Showtime and his 3 opponents were mapped out -- Breazeale, Ortiz, and Kownacki (in that order), I was like "this guys is a ***** hater, Wilder will get his mando out of the way and focus on Fury/Joshua".


But once I heard yesterday that Wilder announced that he is fighting Ortiz again (a man he beat clearly) without a date or venue...I knew that he just doesn't want to fight Joshua.

He knows that Ortiz is an unacceptable fight but he had to rush the announcement because after Saturday, the world will be calling for the Joshua fight.

Wilder is currently a disappointment...a disappointment. Hearn is right.

[Straightener]

Finkel seems to be suggesting Fury will be after Ortiz. So idk, but either way Wilder AND Joshua are fighting a bunch of PBC guys. And yea Wilder is fighting more PBC guys (5/7 vs Joshua's 4/8).

I can’t see them facing fury again until they have to

[Scipio2009]

I find it hard to believe Ortiz will get more money for this than he would for DAZN

DAZN was ready to pay Ortiz $6.5m, Wilder and Fury made something like $25m combined (all the real figures are still left with the principals, but we do know for sure that the fight drew $3.5m at the live gate, and that the US PPV number was tracking towards 350k PPV homes, with Tyson Fury saying the UK number was on the way to 450k PPV homes), and the heat behind Wilder's next PPV has only gone up (the massive US/UK attention after Wilder-Fury, the interest in the rematch, Fury looking like a punk walking away, the attention on Wilder before his next fight, the outrageous amount of interest in his destruction of Breazeale).

You add that Ortiz is coming into the rematch after almost having Wilder out on his feet in the first fight, I don't see it being much of a stretch to think that Wilder-Ortiz 2 ends up clearing $30m+ on their event.

Ortiz gets a 20% share, and he's got a pretty straightforward path to getting $6m.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Neither Wilder nor Fury are going to be appearing on DAZN,
and likewise, Joshua is not going to fight anywhere except DAZN.
DAZN cannot allow one of their most notable commodities to
fight elsewhere, and it would make no sense to for PBC or
Top Rank to legitimize their fledgling broadcasting rival, DAZN,
by allowing them to feature Wilder of Fury.
DAZN is desperate for these big fights because they won't be
able to sustain themselves for long without them.
Top Rank/ESPN & PBC/Fox would be smart to just wait until
DAZN eventually folds.

[Scipio2009]

I've never heard this guy before so things must be serious lol. Really he is mad because Wilder just killed any possible hype for the AJ fight this weekend. Like he said "the only question AJ gets is when is he gonna fight Wilder. Now that's gone because Wilder did his own thing". That anticipation to see what happens after the fight is gone. So no one has a reason to watch.

Frank is basically Hearn's #2, stepping up into the CEO role to basically be the UK operator for Matchroom Sport while Eddie Hearn is looking to break into the US.


Likely part of the reason Wilder made the announcement early, tbh; Hearn/Joshua already tried to start the "we're really to sit down with Wilder after you pay attention to the fight we're selling now" marketing push with things still lagging at the box office and no one hyping it in NYC or anywhere else.

[Scipio2009]

Yet they were willing to do a Whyte vs Joshua rematch.

At Wembley no less, without Whyte barely even winning a moment in the first fight.

[Eff Pandas]

I can’t see them facing fury again until they have to

I don't think Wilder as any concern for losing or of Fury specifically. I don't think they care about what you seem to be implying. I think if Bob allows Fury to fight Wilder, cuz Bob is gonna be the main issue making that fight or not making it, it happens.