Comments Thread For: Joshua Explains How Wilder-Ortiz Rematch Works in His Favor

[Sid-Knee]

“Believe me, I'd rather fight Wilder in two years because I know I'll get better. Imagine two years ago when I was fighting Charles Martin then a few months before that I was fighting Dillian Whyte.

“Compare the type of fighter I was then to where I've got to now, in terms of experience. So then imagine in another two years fighting Wilder. I'll be a lot more sound.”

When did AJ say he didn't want it next like Wilder did?

You can't answer can you troll?

[angkag]

“Believe me, I'd rather fight Wilder in two years because I know I'll get better. Imagine two years ago when I was fighting Charles Martin then a few months before that I was fighting Dillian Whyte.

“Compare the type of fighter I was then to where I've got to now, in terms of experience. So then imagine in another two years fighting Wilder. I'll be a lot more sound.”

Considering AJ's wandering attention span (see recent chat with Radio Raheem which exceeded said attention span), he can be quite lucid at times, and he's not wrong. At 29, he seems focused on improving his overall game and he's likely to improve, while Wilder, at 33, doesn't have time on his side.

Next year they will be 30/34, and taking 33 as the unofficial and highly debatable peak (understanding that some can go longer), then next year already starts playing into AJ's hands, and any longer benefits him even more.

Older than 33, experience and ringcraft can start to play a factor (see Bhop, Floyd), but Wilder doesn't have the ringcraft of a Bhop, he relies purely on his athleticism to deliver that goodnight right hand, and that athleticism will start to degrade soon. Meantime AJ honing fundamentals and the ability to avoid the right hand and counter. Time is on AJ's side, and he knows it.

[angkag]

They keep marinating Joshua vs Wilder. Ortiz is a very live dog and a very good boxer. If he make adjustment, get lucky & beat Wilder then the big money fight is gone.

Ortiz was a real live dog in the first fight, he was pretty old then, but now he's even older, and its unlikely he'll reproduce what he did first time out. But you're right, can't count him out as he has some skills in there (still).

And if Ortiz DID pull it out - ouch. Don't think he will though, pretty safe fight for Wilder methinks (whereas the first one less safe - Wilder took a risk, and it showed).

[hitking]

I clearly pointed out your ******ity. You can't do likewise because it doesn't exist. If so, point it out to me?

Now continue with your desperation. This is a level not seen anywhere else on the planet. It's why I consider your country to be a mental asylum.

There’s literally no way you could have read my post and got from it that I was upset that someone said Wilder is ducking. So you’re either illiterate or a delusional fanboy jumping on anyone you think is speaking negatively about your fav. I personally think you’re both.

[angkag]

Is that why AJ is chasing Wilder with Wilder admitting they're desperate for the fight?

The only one who keeps on saying "Be patient", is Deontay. He knows he'll be ruined by AJ if he fights him. Wilder is feeling genuine terror.

I wouldn't put any stock on what either of them are saying Sid, its the promoters pulling the strings on timing, and both AJ and Wilder are both under the same orders of 'get out there and make noise'.

We would all like to see them get in the ring this year, and it makes a lot of sense while there would be plenty of time for megabuck rematches, but the promoters are the ones who have decided on the marination process to make the first fight bigger, which needs time to get both Wilder's and AJ's profiles bigger in the US - which is where we are.

Wilder seems like he's doign a pretty good job of getting his name out there and growing his profile. Just a year ago, it was AJ riding the high of being a household name in the UK and being able to make big-money fights, while Wilder was fighting for comparable chump-change. The lowball offers back then to Wilder actually made sense from AJ's camp, but Wilder's ability to demand a higher purse now vs this time last year has changed dramatically - so the Wilder camp has done something right, whether by accident or design, and I guess they figure another year and they'll be at a point where its time to strike a deal.

[BOXING-SCRIBE]

Yes he is. He's ducked repeatedly.

Wilder ducked the 7 Mill he asked for. And sent Whyte texts telling him he wouldn't fight him for 2 years even if he became mandatory.

Whyte even agreed to fight Ortiz, just as long as wilder guaranteed that he'd be next should he win. Wilder came back with nothing but silence.

Continue though with this pathetic delusion. It's funny to see weirdos tear themselves apart in this desperate way. Self respect isn't in short supply, it's none existent.

Where do you get all this fake news from?

[lion33lit]

“Believe me, I'd rather fight Wilder in two years because I know I'll get better. Imagine two years ago when I was fighting Charles Martin then a few months before that I was fighting Dillian Whyte.

“Compare the type of fighter I was then to where I've got to now, in terms of experience. So then imagine in another two years fighting Wilder. I'll be a lot more sound.”

Its right here! These quotes have ALWAYS been Joshuas attitude on the whole situation regarding Wilder. If Joshua didnt have those four belts in his possession, then that attitude wouldve been fine. But, hiding behind promoter and dads promotional rhetoric has been obvious: "risk free" fights was the goal to keep the funds rolling in for a long time.

It seemed - in an odd way - at times Joshua was cool with expressing those thoughts, but Barry did the dirty work, because he KNEW his commercial success wasnt quite ready....I'm actually impressed with Joshuas honesty now.

Barry said to "duck" Wilder after his 8th fight, and how long after that(?) seems to be up to 2018 when he advised waiting 2 more years. There was nothing wrong in wanting to wait, but when a legit KILLA comes on the scene and calls you out - you gotta rep those 4 belts - "waiting" is over!

[Fire4231]

Considering AJ's wandering attention span (see recent chat with Radio Raheem which exceeded said attention span), he can be quite lucid at times, and he's not wrong. At 29, he seems focused on improving his overall game and he's likely to improve, while Wilder, at 33, doesn't have time on his side.

Next year they will be 30/34, and taking 33 as the unofficial and highly debatable peak (understanding that some can go longer), then next year already starts playing into AJ's hands, and any longer benefits him even more.

Older than 33, experience and ringcraft can start to play a factor (see Bhop, Floyd), but Wilder doesn't have the ringcraft of a Bhop, he relies purely on his athleticism to deliver that goodnight right hand, and that athleticism will start to degrade soon. Meantime AJ honing fundamentals and the ability to avoid the right hand and counter. Time is on AJ's side, and he knows it.

Lol...Well if it’s Joshua strategy to fight lesser fighters waiting for Wilder to get older that’s weak.

[CLUE]

Wilder % keeps growing with every match. Wilder and his team see that, and are going to drag it out till they get 50/50.

[Fire4231]

Its right here! These quotes have ALWAYS been Joshuas attitude on the whole situation regarding Wilder. If Joshua didnt have those four belts in his possession, then that attitude wouldve been fine. But, hiding behind promoter and dads promotional rhetoric has been obvious: "risk free" fights was the goal to keep the funds rolling in for a long time.

It seemed - in an odd way - at times Joshua was cool with expressing those thoughts, but Barry did the dirty work, because he KNEW his commercial success wasnt quite ready....I'm actually impressed with Joshuas honesty now.

Barry said to "duck" Wilder after his 8th fight, and how long after that(?) seems to be up to 2018 when he advised waiting 2 more years. There was nothing wrong in wanting to wait, but when a legit KILLA comes on the scene and calls you out - you gotta rep those 4 belts - "waiting" is over!

Yeah I agree, AJ is no contender he is a champion.

It’s like he is waiting on the Wilder fight to become a sure thing. If he was good enough to beat Klitschko, how is he not ready to fight Wilder?

As you stated if he isn’t ready to fight everyone give up those belts that signify you are the World Champion.

Tired of these new wave fighters who want finances connected to being champion but don’t want to pay the dues of showing you are the king of the hill. Good comment!!!