Comments Thread For: Wilder-Ortiz II A Done Deal, Eyed For September

[SuperSuperLeeds]

No one cares because Ortiz has only aged since the last fight and definitely not got any better, he looked like crap vs Kauffman, he tried for the finish from the mid rounds and only just managed to get it in the tenth, against a pillow puncher. Tony grano stppped kauffman in 4rds. AJ ,Wilder or fury would of got Kauffman out of there by the mid rounds(fury didn't want pianeta out of there). Ortiz looks pedestrian and hasn't impressed or earned a rematch since the first fight. And wilder has proved himself since, Ortiz was his first real test, he passed. Went on to prove he is on equal footing with fury who is rightful heir to the hw throne and undoubtedly a great boxer. Then blew out brezeale who had looked like a decent contender and a real dog since the AJ fight. Wilder poleaxed him easy, quicker than AJ with ease. The Wilder vs ortiz rematch lacks the intrigue of the first fight. It's now a different context. It's like wilder vs stiverne 2. It's not the same as the first fight. It's a fight I'll watch I really enjoyed the first one but wilder should be leaving the possibility of negotiations with Joshua open and if not I'd even prefer he fights a new challenge like Miller or kownacki etc or Joyce even. Hrgovic. Usyk. An emerging prospect. A new threat. Even whyte. A younger man. He has Ortiz scalp already it's over.

[Fire4231]

Lol read it the first time mate.

Firstly Whyte is an improved fighter Ortiz is a declined fighter (Hammer/Kaufman perfomances are proof) but also AJ fans would still rather AJ fight Fury or Wilder. No one wants Ruiz or Schwartz fights.

Makes sense... Ortiz is so declined that Dillian Whyte just ducked him. Besides who has declined more than Joshua? The brother looked indestructible up until Klitschko.

Secondly AJ never ducked Ortiz I've already schooled you on this and all you can retort is "are you on a blackberry"

N’all when you chose an easier mandatory it’s a duck. We established the Ortiz Mandatory was first and even reestablished before the Pulev mandatory.

Now Ortiz is 40 years old and out of shape he gassed last time. You fellas don't want to give AJ credit for beating the visibly in much better shape potential ATG Klitschko because he was 41 one but expect everyone to be kissing Wilders rim for someone he already beat with the flu who never beat anyone due to being a ped cheat and is less proven and older than even Povetin.

Then AJ should have fought him. Ortiz verses Joshua would have been a game changer for DAZN. But he postured himself into a like warm match with Ruiz. Who is signing up for DAZN to see Ruiz vs Joshua?

All that and somehow you're suprised people are disappointed Wilder has made no attempts to fight AJ this year. What goes on in your head?

Not surprised, he is the A-Side now. Now it’s a Showtime business decision. They are not bailing out DAZN with a Wilder fight. Do you think Hearn will allow that fight to be on Showtime PPV?

DAZN needs exclusivity to encourage new subscriptions. He should have taken the fight when Wilder was becoming popular. But he thought that A side collateral would never run out. And spewed hate in every interview. Well momentum has switched and DAZN will need to look to another weight class for it next big fight. Want the fight to happen but there is something rewarding about seeing Hearn squirm.

[SuperSuperLeeds]

Going out to you especially...

So let me get this straight... Wilder vs Ortiz was a great fight the first time. Fight was so close Wilder could possibly take the L this time. Very Dangerous for both men.

But some of the UK Man Fans show their arse in their reaction.

Remember... same type of great fight AJ vs Klitschko 2 and y’all are like yes let’s see it. Even worst Dillion Whyte vs AJ 2 was just a decent fight and not as competitive and y’all are still like yes let’s see it. Fury is fighting Tom Schwartz and some of y’all are still like yes let’s see it. AJ is fighting a lesser fighter in Ruiz and y’all are yes let’s see it.

However a clear Fight of the Year candidate Ortiz vs Wilder 2. A fight with two of the top 4 heavyweights going life and death for legacy. Two of the top fighters brave enough to step in the ring and now y’all are like no?

More compelling...Wilder is fighting Ortiz the very guy AJ ducked initially and still won’t offer a straight deal and the guy Dillion Whyte straight ducked...

Conclusion...GTFOH you bum arse man fans. This is not towards any real boxing fans in the UK but you f’ing AJ fanatics are worse than Pacquiao’s now missing contingent.

Use to respect so many of y’all but the UK’s fan brand is almost dead in boxing. You clearly sold your soul to Hearn and no one likes you anymore. If you are offended it’s because I am speaking to you directly.

Ortiz can barely stop Kauffman but we're supposed to believe he's gonna stop wilder on a second attempt? I cant buy that ****, do you buy that ****? You KNOW the result before the fight be honest. He showed in the first fight he can't beat wilder. Wilder took his soul. No one is excited by this fight. Ortiz is too slow and too old and he barely got into the first fight due to ill health for goodness sake. He caught wilder, that's happened before ie duhauapas, brezeale caught him prior to the ko shall we have that rematch too. Ortiz has not proven he's a top five heavyweight and his results on paper don't prove that either. Does current Ortiz beat whyte, miller, Rivas, fury, joyce,Hrgovic, usyk, dubois, yoka, AJ, Fury, Wilder, povetkin, pulev, kownacki? What's the evidence?going 12 with Malik Scott. Getting knocked out by wilder. Going 10 with kauffman. Who has he beat. Ortiz day has came and gone. He had his moment. He will now become another meme like stiverne or brezeale.

[Tyistall]

Not surprised, he is the A-Side now. Now it’s a Showtime business decision. They are not bailing out DAZN with a Wilder fight. Do you think Hearn will allow that fight to be on Showtime PPV?

DAZN needs exclusivity to encourage new subscriptions. He should have taken the fight when Wilder was becoming popular. But he thought that A side collateral would never run out. And spewed hate in every interview. Well momentum has switched and DAZN will need to look to another weight class for it next big fight. Want the fight to happen but there is something rewarding about seeing Hearn squirm.

Huge sigh...OK, even though I'm sure you will turn the debate around and not answer any of my points or questions, here goes. First off, google DAZN. It not only has boxing, but it has MMA, European soccer, baseball, American football, basically a lot of sports. So to say that DAZN is struggling is laughable. They are actually expanding. Next point "Wilder becoming popular?' hahahhah. This last fight was not on PPV. The viewing numbers were worse than when he fought Stiverne. His pay was so low (compared to the 20 million DAZN was going to pay him) that they didn't release his fight purse. The arena was half packed, and half of those people got free tickets. If Wilder was so popular, where are his multi million dollar sponsors? Why is he selling his own T shirts at the fight hahahaha. AJ makes more in sponsorship deals than Wilder makes in 2 fights hahah.

[Fire4231]

Huge sigh...OK, even though I'm sure you will turn the debate around and not answer any of my points or questions, here goes. First off, google DAZN. It not only has boxing, but it has MMA, European soccer, baseball, American football, basically a lot of sports. So to say that DAZN is struggling is laughable. They are actually expanding. Next point "Wilder becoming popular?' hahahhah. This last fight was not on PPV. The viewing numbers were worse than when he fought Stiverne. His pay was so low (compared to the 20 million DAZN was going to pay him) that they didn't release his fight purse. The arena was half packed, and half of those people got free tickets. If Wilder was so popular, where are his multi million dollar sponsors? Why is he selling his own T shirts at the fight hahahaha. AJ makes more in sponsorship deals than Wilder makes in 2 fights hahah.

Take your arguement up with the online writers... here is the link:

https://www.midiaresearch.com/blog/d...wing-for-fans/

Just in case you are feeling lazy here is the conclusion...

The pendulum is swinging against DAZN

The magnitude of these undertakings could ultimately force DAZN into making a distressed sale or becoming an acquisition target for a tech major or a company with the appetite and financial resources to acquire DAZN’s assets and endure the losses while it builds (bundles) out a truly viable content proposition for sports fans.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Will Wilder rematch Arreola, if Arreola beats Kownacki???

Probably yes..

[IronDanHamza]

Why wasn't he offered the fight before Miller?

No clue but why does that matter?

He still turned it down

[Phenom]

No clue but why does that matter?

He still turned it down

On a short notice as a replacement and judging by how he looked after Breazeale fight I doubt he was in the gym

It matters because the fight wasn't offered under normal circumstances

[Tyistall]

Take your arguement up with the online writers... here is the link:

https://www.midiaresearch.com/blog/d...wing-for-fans/

Just in case you are feeling lazy here is the conclusion...

The pendulum is swinging against DAZN

The magnitude of these undertakings could ultimately force DAZN into making a distressed sale or becoming an acquisition target for a tech major or a company with the appetite and financial resources to acquire DAZN’s assets and endure the losses while it builds (bundles) out a truly viable content proposition for sports fans.

Bravo, you did exactly as I said you would and you proved my point. Wilder fans never answer straight questions. You guys all act like a bunch of women.

[Fire4231]

Bravo, you did exactly as I said you would and you proved my point. Wilder fans never answer straight questions. You guys all act like a bunch of women.

No Man Fan, Educate your self. Not baby sitting you, the link is proof of numbers. It contains an analysis of financial health. It removes the need for a discussion around your garbage trail of rose colored mis-facts. Even put the conclusion in front of you. You don’t like it but the truth is the truth. There is nothing to discuss.