Steve Rolls is not that bad - change my mind

[Boxing_1013]

This is NSB BS at its finest.

There's no argument to an idiotic statement.

Only an idiot would even bother attempting to refute a statement that has no facts in it.

So the fact that he beat Nicholson who tied Aleem is not a fact? If an objective person is presented with info like that they would say - OK, maybe he isn't that bad. Instead most on here choose to double down because the facts don't matter, only their pre-chosen narrative.

When someone can't compete on the logic/discussion, they go to personal attacks. Sounds like you Blue.

If you have evidence that he sucks break it down for all of us. Most people talking about him have probably never even watched him or looked into him lol.

[Boxing_1013]

This is NSB BS at its finest.

There's no argument to an idiotic statement.

Only an idiot would even bother attempting to refute a statement that has no facts in it.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you were talking about someone else?

Rolls - good amateur career - fact
Rolls - beat Nicholson who tied Aleem - fact.

I mean I don't know why that comparison bothers people so much lol. If people kept it real they would give Rolls a little more credit there.

[Idunnoshet]

Let me put it this way - this dude is a lot better than Hugo Centeno...no disrespect to him

You do know that Centeno KO'd Aleem in 3 right ?

[Sable&Whitefish]

If GGG is still 80% of what he was then this will still be over in 4 rounds imo, but I always like a guy that had a good amateur career and Rolls had that. And it's boxing and GGG is aging so a man always has a puncher's chance, but yeah I am not saying Rolls is a sleeper at all.

Do you really think Rolls has a "puncher's chance"? He is potentially the first person to KO Golovkin if everything goes right for him?

[Boxing_1013]

You do know that Centeno KO'd Aleem in 3 right ?

Of course...luckiest moment of his career and I still have no idea how he did it. Anything can happen in boxing, one punch can change it all, and that was perfect proof of it.

He has been and will be living on that victory for probably the rest of his career. I've never been impressed with anything boxing-wise that Centeno has done in the ring and TO THIS DAY I still can't believe he landed that punch. He was on his way to getting walked down but hey that's boxing.

Mark my words Centeno will never have a win better than that in his career.

[Boxing_1013]

Do you really think Rolls has a "puncher's chance"? He is potentially the first person to KO Golovkin if everything goes right for him?

I guess it's just my perspective on any fight - the underdog always has a puncher's chance. It's boxing, anything can happen.

If GGG was younger I would say almost 0 chance - only saving grace for Rolls in that scenario is again we literally don't know much about him. We all agree he is probably not at that top level but until that's proven he still has the 'unknown' quantity about him.

He could fight to his opposition level for all we know and could surprise the first top guy he faces. Not saying that is likely but a possibility.

I like GGG but at his age he is not getting any faster/quicker, and if he feels 37 on fight night, and is a half second too slow in one spot, well yeah anything can happen. Not likely but maybe a 5% chance imo. Rolls can't outbox him imo so getting a lucky punch is his best and only real hope here to win.

[Dagomba]

Lol you're not a real fan man and you apparently are allergic to logic.

One of GGG's best traits is his ability to dispatch of a guy not on his level/who can't physically compete. So wouldn't be surprised if that happened to Rolls as well around round 4-5.

Wouldn't be surprised if the first few rounds are rounds where GGG is getting his timing. May take 3, may take 1. Who knows we will see.

Unlike 50% of the people talking about Rolls I have actually watched film of him and looked at his resume and he showed himself to be a decent fighter.

You can try and exaggerate all you want but based on who he was been in with - he was as good as Nicholson who was as good as Aleem. Just stick with that one if doing more hurts your little baby brain.

I'm allergic to triangle theories as a way to justify a fight prediction. It's lame, and unreliable.

Based on your flawed logic Martirosyan is on the level of Vernon Forrest, Mosley and ODLH. So in retrospect, that's one of GGG best win against a decent opponent

[Boxing_1013]

I'm allergic to triangle theories as a way to justify a fight prediction. It's lame, and unreliable.

Based on your flawed logic Martirosyan is on the level of Vernon Forrest, Mosley and ODLH. So in retrospect, that's one of GGG best win against a decent opponent

No actually I don't really take into account anything like that, that spans over 10 years, and includes several fighters at different weights, and a lot of the fighters are either not at their best weight or past their prime.

I don't think Trevor Berbick is better than Muhammad Ali and I don't think Canelo beat a prime Shane Mosley.

Comparing guys at the same weight, all in their relative prime, in a 2-3 year period is pretty fair though. If you don't want to do more than a 3 guy comparison that's fine.

But Rolls=Nicholson=Aleem I think is very fair and helps to tell the general level of Rolls.

I will also point out that I never really was one to hate on Vanes and I don't think he looked rusty or shot vs GGG. He just couldn't compete physically with GGG and that is one of GGG's best qualities - if you can't deal with him physically or with his pressure you will be going and it will be quick.

At 154 Vanes showed he was about as good as JeCharlo, Andrade and Lara. That's pretty good by me.

[blue_dolphin]

this fight should be struck down by the commission. theyve done it in the past with similar horrendous mismatches.

but this is just lilg getting back to his "prime" form of crushing tomato cans.

[Dagomba]

No actually I don't really take into account anything like that, that spans over 10 years, and includes several fighters at different weights, and a lot of the fighters are either not at their best weight or past their prime.

I don't think Trevor Berbick is better than Muhammad Ali and I don't think Canelo beat a prime Shane Mosley.

Comparing guys at the same weight, all in their relative prime, in a 2-3 year period is pretty fair though. If you don't want to do more than a 3 guy comparison that's fine.

But Rolls=Nicholson=Aleem I think is very fair and helps to tell the general level of Rolls.

I will also point out that I never really was one to hate on Vanes and I don't think he looked rusty or shot vs GGG. He just couldn't compete physically with GGG and that is one of GGG's best qualities - if you can't deal with him physically or with his pressure you will be going and it will be quick.

At 154 Vanes showed he was about as good as JeCharlo, Andrade and Lara. That's pretty good by me.

Ok I'm out you are clearly delusional.