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  • DaNeutral.
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    #1

    Lets talk numbers.

    So AJ v Wilder. Careers so far. Wilder demands 50-50 or more. We can all look to the future and say Wilder is the next Floyd Mayweather or AJ Wilder is bigger in America. Some goons even try to claim Wilder is actually the A side over Anthony Josuha (Isnt that right Phenom).

    But where are they getting this from? Wilders had over 40 fights now, been a champion for 4 of 5 years. Joshua has had over 20 and been a unified world champ for a while now. Plenty of numbers rolling in. PPV sales, Tv numbers, Ticket sales, revenue, gates and all that. Not Google searches or Youtube hits though cuz they dont count for a single Dollar of Pound.

    So where is Wilder leading Joshua in these numbers? What could him and Finkel put on the table and say "THERE, Thats why we ask 50-50, there is the proof that Wilder is every bit the superstar Joshua is.

    Ive seen the numbers from the Breazeale fight and to me they are a bit embarrassing, to me it looks like Wilders worth is going backwards at a time it was already NOWHERE NEAR Anthony Joshua's numbers. So there must be something somewhere that i am missing.

    Or does it really all just come down to the fact that Wilder should get 50-50 because HE ASKED FOR IT?
  • BLASTER1
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    #2
    Dat right dare.
    WILDER is da boss and he asked for it.

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    • Fanofreason
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      #3
      It takes 2 for a mega fight.

      Wilder gets 50% or no fight.

      It’s good business by team Wilder.

      I think it should be 55-45 in AJs favor.

      60-40 rematch to the winner.

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      • Toffee
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        #4
        It comes down to the fact that it's a mega fight and doesn't happen unless both sign up.

        Not for one second do I think Wilder deserves it based on the numbers but it's two blokes getting in the ring, and it's not like there are any viable alternatives.

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        • 15 Rounds again
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          #5
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          So AJ v Wilder. Careers so far. Wilder demands 50-50 or more. We can all look to the future and say Wilder is the next Floyd Mayweather or AJ Wilder is bigger in America. Some goons even try to claim Wilder is actually the A side over Anthony Josuha (Isnt that right Phenom).

          But where are they getting this from? Wilders had over 40 fights now, been a champion for 4 of 5 years. Joshua has had over 20 and been a unified world champ for a while now. Plenty of numbers rolling in. PPV sales, Tv numbers, Ticket sales, revenue, gates and all that. Not Google searches or Youtube hits though cuz they dont count for a single Dollar of Pound.

          So where is Wilder leading Joshua in these numbers? What could him and Finkel put on the table and say "THERE, Thats why we ask 50-50, there is the proof that Wilder is every bit the superstar Joshua is.

          Ive seen the numbers from the Breazeale fight and to me they are a bit embarrassing, to me it looks like Wilders worth is going backwards at a time it was already NOWHERE NEAR Anthony Joshua's numbers. So there must be something somewhere that i am missing.

          Or does it really all just come down to the fact that Wilder should get 50-50 because HE ASKED FOR IT?
          Honestly, (and I am.being serious here), the parallels between the strategy Trump uses to fool unintelligent people into voting for him- and the way Wilder himself, and his small posse of followers - simply lie amd keep telling the lie till it sticks, those are very similar. Both just say things that are completely reputable- but they just say them.anyway.
          Trump: Climate change is not real. Climate change is a scientific fact.

          Wilder fans: AJ turned down 50M. Wrong, they said "send us the terms and conditions" and were told "no". Fact.

          Wikder ****s on about one name.one face but doesn't back it up makes ZERO actual effort to.meet, deal, fight.

          It's frustrating as fook for us fans who actually want to see it happen. Guy is a phoney - let his sorry ass fight Ortiz x 3 and Kownaki then - absolute ****house.

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          • Rockybigblower
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            #6
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            So AJ v Wilder. Careers so far. Wilder demands 50-50 or more. We can all look to the future and say Wilder is the next Floyd Mayweather or AJ Wilder is bigger in America. Some goons even try to claim Wilder is actually the A side over Anthony Josuha (Isnt that right Phenom).

            But where are they getting this from? Wilders had over 40 fights now, been a champion for 4 of 5 years. Joshua has had over 20 and been a unified world champ for a while now. Plenty of numbers rolling in. PPV sales, Tv numbers, Ticket sales, revenue, gates and all that. Not Google searches or Youtube hits though cuz they dont count for a single Dollar of Pound.

            So where is Wilder leading Joshua in these numbers? What could him and Finkel put on the table and say "THERE, Thats why we ask 50-50, there is the proof that Wilder is every bit the superstar Joshua is.

            Ive seen the numbers from the Breazeale fight and to me they are a bit embarrassing, to me it looks like Wilders worth is going backwards at a time it was already NOWHERE NEAR Anthony Joshua's numbers. So there must be something somewhere that i am missing.

            Or does it really all just come down to the fact that Wilder should get 50-50 because HE ASKED FOR IT?
            I thought we were talking numbers here....what are all these words?

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            • techliam
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              #7
              Originally posted by Toffee
              It comes down to the fact that it's a mega fight and doesn't happen unless both sign up.

              Not for one second do I think Wilder deserves it based on the numbers but it's two blokes getting in the ring, and it's not like there are any viable alternatives.
              It will happen if Wilder accepts a deal. Otherwise, Wilder will never hit the jackpot.

              In this scenario, there’s no justification for Wilder sitting out the fight because he won’t get 50/50. Especially when it will be a 2 fight deal

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              • Curt Henning
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                #8
                wilder is going to get 50 percent or damn close to it

                and its simple why

                the general public isnt us...they arent on here...they arent checking ratings and purses...they arent following the day to day back and forth between camps......they dont really care about that stuff....

                and wilder has planted the 50/50 seed in their heads....if AJs side fails to comply wilder is going to say "they wont give me my cut...what i deserve"....and theyll nod and say "yeah its a 50/50 fight".....and the pressure will fall on hearn and the 3 belt champ global superstar...it always falls on them...just like it mounted on canelo to fight golovkin....eventually if wilder keeps winning hell pretty much get what he wants within reason

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                • Toffee
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  wilder is going to get 50 percent or damn close to it

                  and its simple why

                  the general public isnt us...they arent on here...they arent checking ratings and purses...they arent following the day to day back and forth between camps......they dont really care about that stuff....

                  and wilder has planted the 50/50 seed in their heads....if AJs side fails to comply wilder is going to say "they wont give me my cut...what i deserve"....and theyll nod and say "yeah its a 50/50 fight".....and the pressure will fall on hearn and the 3 belt champ global superstar...it always falls on them...just like it mounted on canelo to fight golovkin....eventually if wilder keeps winning hell pretty much get what he wants within reason
                  Public pressure is important, but not on one party. Fights don't get made because one party feels slightly embarrassed.

                  Public pressure for a fight means public interest in a fight. Means big numbers.

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                  • W1LL
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                    #10
                    Wilder's belt is also a paper title after he lost to Fury. At the end of the day though, if Hearn and AJ want the two biggest fights out there, which are Fury and Wilder, then they have to be prepared to make some sacrifices. Stop worrying about what the other guy is making, because a 50/50 split against Deontay Wilder for all of Fury's belts will set AJ and Wilder up for the rest of their lives. It's that simple.

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