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  • alexjust
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    #31
    Originally posted by Corelone
    Ortiz went to the UK hunting for AJ. He was dismissed after trying to goad AJ by carrying somebody. AJ was too smart, and used the stink to duck him. Now we get Ruiz. Tell me how he's better than Ortiz?
    Oh...your mind jumps from one topic to the other with the speed of light. But I'm glad we settled on who ducked whom when Miller fight has fallen through.

    I didn't say that Ruiz is better than Ortiz. In your lighting speed topics hopping you might have confused me with somebody else who thought that Ruiz was better than Ortiz. Unlike Ortiz, Ruiz was available and that's why he's got a life-changing chance and a life-changing money I'd say, good for Ruiz, wouldn't you?..

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    • Corelone
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      #32
      Originally posted by alexjust
      Oh...your mind jumps from one topic to the other with the speed of light. But I'm glad we settled on who ducked whom when Miller fight has fallen through.

      I didn't say that Ruiz is better than Ortiz. In your lighting speed topics hopping you might have confused me with somebody else who thought that Ruiz was better than Ortiz. Unlike Ortiz, Ruiz was available and that's why he's got a life-changing chance and a life-changing money I'd say, good for Ruiz, wouldn't you?..
      Light speed and galaxies, but I'm not complaining. Ruiz has time to spare, Ortiz is viejito, muy ruco. AJ can run the clock out on King Kong. The Money? At some point, you realize that you can or can't spend it all. Ruiz is getting there.

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      • Fire4231
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        #33
        Originally posted by Laligalaliga
        Lolx.... You are not as smart or corny as you think. What am telling you is the stage AJ is now as a unified champ, wilder was still fighting guys with 10 losses.

        Only few fighters are unified champ in 21 fights in boxing history. It takes a man with a lion heart to achieve that.
        The unified champs name was Vladimir Klitschko. As he got older AJ happened to be the second of the four greats to fight him after Fury’s coke retreat.

        Vlad a boxer who at least fought everyone available. Wasn’t just holding the titles hostage like AJ and his can’t match make for sh@t boss Hearn.

        AJ is a good fighter but when do we find out the depth of that? They aren’t pushing him and you fake fans enable this sh@t. Fans so thirsty for a back yard champion that you would rather have a flimsy image based champ than actually have him prove it extending legacy.

        We can all say this... The US based fighter is real and he is fighting everyone available. Your time machine thought process won’t change that bumski.

        Btw- When will we say that about AJ again? If he is too young to fight the best drop them belts young man an grow some balls.

        The man is ducking any smoke from a real dragon. Garbage Man Fans are running amuck saying absolutely nothing of substance creating distraction. Sit your insecure @ss down and let’s have a golden age in boxing.

        If 50/50 odds are too much risk, you need to get out the f’ing sport squeamish little ladies. Don’t worry bumski the therapy for making a man is free. You just have to become one.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Laligalaliga
          Who the hell is Ortiz and who has he beating?
          That happens to be wilder's best win.
          If you are asking this question you don’t know sh@t about boxing. Your eyeball test is too biased to even see real talent.

          Who is Ortiz? He is the old guy AJ and Whyte keep ducking. Hoping to fight, when he has nothing physical left. The warrior who post prime took Wilder to the brink.

          The guy that AJ’s team, to this day, low balled on a rushed fight schedule advantage and still wouldn’t take the damn fight.

          Once again bumski if your guy doesn’t have the stomach for this there are plenty of announcer jobs available. Matter of fact, I hear Dazn could use them. Sure you would feel better keeping him out of HARMS way. Way to punk up the place soft @ss corn ball.

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          • Fire4231
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            #35
            Originally posted by alexjust
            You are missing a few facts in Ortiz story. Eddie's initial offer was $6m. Too low from $500k or $1m Ortiz made in Wilder fight? Ok, they offered $7m. Still too low? And then Ortiz camp started showing their dirty laundry and pointing fingers at each other while not dis*****g the fact of $7m. IMO, under no circumstances $7m is a low ball offer. It may be insufficient for some - fine, but that's not a low ball offer by any standard for somebody like Ortiz. Therefore I'd say that Ortiz just didn't want it.

            P.S. I see no reason to believe Eddie over Ortiz or other way around, but we are dealing with the facts that we have. I have no other information or insight into this be it from Eddie or Ortiz's camp. So..yeah, Ortiz ducked AJ for $7m. Why? Its an open question. Maybe he need more training or better flushing... only he knows why.

            AJ's resume in 22 fights is a resume of a star in the making. Give it a few years, you'll get it sooner or later.
            Are you kidding me bro? If he was offered 5,6, or even 7 million to take a short notice fight to save AJ’s important US debut it was a low ball offer.

            Miller’s bum @ss was getting more than that. However Ortiz at his best has shown enough to make the odds makers real nervous.

            And what you missed in your creative story is the 6 to 7 million is Hearns unverifiable claim. We all know he is as credible as that orange orangutang in the White House.

            What Ortiz’s team said is they told Hearn to send a contract. As with Wilder it was never sent. Instead he went to the media to justify Ruiz instead.

            Can’t wait to one of these second rate fighters catches AJ clean. The risk in fighting lesser fighters is this, when you lose to them after ducking the verified champs you can say bye to any legacy.

            If you man fans need to keep AJ out of traffic then maybe this sport is just not for you. Golf keeps athletes safe, look for your next man crush there.

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            • Laligalaliga
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              #36
              Originally posted by Fire4231
              The unified champs name was Vladimir Klitschko. As he got older AJ happened to be the second of the four greats to fight him after Fury’s coke retreat.

              Vlad a boxer who at least fought everyone available. Wasn’t just holding the titles hostage like AJ and his can’t match make for sh@t boss Hearn.

              AJ is a good fighter but when do we find out the depth of that? They aren’t pushing him and you fake fans enable this sh@t. Fans so thirsty for a back yard champion that you would rather have a flimsy image based champ than actually have him prove it extending legacy.

              We can all say this... The US based fighter is real and he is fighting everyone available. Your time machine thought process won’t change that bumski.

              Btw- When will we say that about AJ again? If he is too young to fight the best drop them belts young man an grow some balls.

              The man is ducking any smoke from a real dragon. Garbage Man Fans are running amuck saying absolutely nothing of substance creating distraction. Sit your insecure @ss down and let’s have a golden age in boxing.

              If 50/50 odds are too much risk, you need to get out the f’ing sport squeamish little ladies. Don’t worry bumski the therapy for making a man is free. You just have to become one.
              Lolx.... Give credit to whom credit is due.
              Eddie threw him there with the lions at a very tender stage into his pro career. At that stage some were still fighting guys with 10 losses at the club house.
              Eddie threw him in there in the wilderness and he was man enough to defeat the lions and became king at fight number 17 and never looked back since then.

              Make a shout out to this great warrior so you can experience greatness in your life as well.

              Enof said

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              • Laligalaliga
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                #37
                Originally posted by Fire4231
                If you are asking this question you don’t know sh@t about boxing. Your eyeball test is too biased to even see real talent.

                Who is Ortiz? He is the old guy AJ and Whyte keep ducking. Hoping to fight, when he has nothing physical left. The warrior who post prime took Wilder to the brink.

                The guy that AJ’s team, to this day, low balled on a rushed fight schedule advantage and still wouldn’t take the damn fight.

                Once again bumski if your guy doesn’t have the stomach for this there are plenty of announcer jobs available. Matter of fact, I hear Dazn could use them. Sure you would feel better keeping him out of HARMS way. Way to punk up the place soft @ss corn ball.
                Smiles... I have seen all you wrote. Now tell me, who has Ortiz beating?

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Fire4231
                  If you are asking this question you don’t know sh@t about boxing. Your eyeball test is too biased to even see real talent.

                  Who is Ortiz? He is the old guy AJ and Whyte keep ducking. Hoping to fight, when he has nothing physical left. The warrior who post prime took Wilder to the brink.

                  The guy that AJ’s team, to this day, low balled on a rushed fight schedule advantage and still wouldn’t take the damn fight.

                  Once again bumski if your guy doesn’t have the stomach for this there are plenty of announcer jobs available. Matter of fact, I hear Dazn could use them. Sure you would feel better keeping him out of HARMS way. Way to punk up the place soft @ss corn ball.
                  Smiles... I have seen all you wrote. Now tell me, who has Ortiz beating?

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                  • Fire4231
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    Lolx.... Give credit to whom credit is due.
                    Eddie threw him there with the lions at a very tender stage into his pro career. At that stage some were still fighting guys with 10 losses at the club house.
                    Eddie threw him in there in the wilderness and he was man enough to defeat the lions and became king at fight number 17 and never looked back since then.

                    Make a shout out to this great warrior so you can experience greatness in your life as well.

                    Enof said
                    May I lend you the world’s tiniest set of hands for sub-audible applause.

                    Anthony Joshua is an Olympian with a strong amateur background. It is not rare for a fighter with that pedigree to fight early for a title and rise to the top.

                    However Wilder has a very limited amateur background if any so putting him in with any professional was throwing home to the wolves. Even today he is still learning fundamentals and he amazingly holds the WBC belt as a heavyweight. How does he remain champion given his blu collar sports pedigree.

                    To see both of these remarkable fighters rise is powerful. However the UK audience keeps using this time travel based distraction to dismiss the sensational and historically rare for the status quo blue chip entry into boxing. This makes no sense to me.

                    More importantly boxing is a what have you done for me lately sport. I was once a big AJ fan. Then he stopped fighting top comp.

                    In addition the crazy fanatics stepped in. Knowing nothing about the sport and only faithful to all things Joshua.

                    In the what have you done lately compartment the two aren’t even comparable. It feels as if one is getting better fighting top competition and the other is getting worst taking on safe fights.

                    In my opinion AJ needs the Ortiz fight or someone to even have a chance against Wilder. Because if goes straight to Wilder he will quickly realize the difference in opponent quality he is facing.

                    But forget all this talk of time travel. Let’s see the damn fight UK.

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                    • Laligalaliga
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Fire4231
                      May I lend you the world’s tiniest set of hands for sub-audible applause.

                      Anthony Joshua is an Olympian with a strong amateur background. It is not rare for a fighter with that pedigree to fight early for a title and rise to the top.

                      However Wilder has a very limited amateur background if any so putting him in with any professional was throwing home to the wolves. Even today he is still learning fundamentals and he amazingly holds the WBC belt as a heavyweight. How does he remain champion given his blu collar sports pedigree.

                      To see both of these remarkable fighters rise is powerful. However the UK audience keeps using this time travel based distraction to dismiss the sensational and historically rare for the status quo blue chip entry into boxing. This makes no sense to me.

                      More importantly boxing is a what have you done for me lately sport. I was once a big AJ fan. Then he stopped fighting top comp.

                      In addition the crazy fanatics stepped in. Knowing nothing about the sport and only faithful to all things Joshua.

                      In the what have you done lately compartment the two aren’t even comparable. It feels as if one is getting better fighting top competition and the other is getting worst taking on safe fights.

                      In my opinion AJ needs the Ortiz fight or someone to even have a chance against Wilder. Because if goes straight to Wilder he will quickly realize the difference in opponent quality he is facing.

                      But forget all this talk of time travel. Let’s see the damn fight UK.
                      Are you kidding me with this fairytale excuses. Wilder was a bronze medal winner at the Olympics. What's the difference between a gold medal and a bronze medal winner in the Olympics? Just a loss incase you don't know.

                      Give respect to the unified champ for his heart and work ethics. He did what only few in the sport had done.

                      Dnt stress yourself trying to spin this, it's dead on arrival.

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