Wilder is not a ****** man, he's a thinker in the ring.

[Roberto Vasquez]

All what years? Wlad never gave voluntaries. If you wanted to fight Wlad, you had to become his mandatory. Fury had to become WBA and WBO mandatory before Wlad would get into the ring with him.

Wilder got the green belt, which Wlad never had any interest in having either. Wlad/Joshua would have never happened had Fury not beaten Klit. Wlad had his next opponent lined up after Fury (IBF mandatory Vyacheslav Glazkov)

Are you serious? Wilder never even asked for the fight. He wouldn't even fight Fury back in those days, despite Fury chasing him He's not even chasing the Joshua fight now. Saying it might happen in 2020 or something.

Real fans want to see that fight. Wilder has a great chance against AJ. He should take it now. Neither Wilder or AJ is superhuman. One of them will lose at some point (unless they keep fighting bums). Make the fight now.

[_Rexy_]

I thought this thread is about Wilder as a "thinker in the ring"... (which he isn't)...

Set at trap for Ortiz which won him the fight.

[_Rexy_]

Are you serious? Wilder never even asked for the fight. He wouldn't even fight Fury back in those days, despite Fury chasing him He's not even chasing the Joshua fight now. Saying it might happen in 2020 or something.

Real fans want to see that fight. Wilder has a great chance against AJ. He should take it now. Neither Wilder or AJ is superhuman. One of them will lose at some point (unless they keep fighting bums). Make the fight now.

He wouldn't fight Fury back in what days? What the hell are you even talking about?

[MDPopescu]

Set at trap for Ortiz which won him the fight.

I see.......................

[Roberto Vasquez]

He wouldn't fight Fury back in what days? What the hell are you even talking about?

It means "back at that time."

Seriously what opponent in Wilder's boxing record makes you think he would have taken Klitschko or the Fury fight back then? Because I don't see anyone remotely near that level.

Your problem is you are a "Wilder fan". Good for you. But boxing fans want to see the big fights happen, and you can tell all from a fighter's record. Its the only thing that doesn't lie.

It's people like you who constantly defend their favourite fighter who take the pressure off these fights happening.

[BodiesInFlight]

He's like a heavyweight Mayweather only better because he has power too!

[JakeTheBoxer]

He's like a heavyweight Mayweather only better because he has power too!

What the hell are you talking about? Floyd clearly outboxed his opponents.

Wilder loses nearly every round and than stops the opponent.

[alexguiness]

Wilder got dat sweet science doe...

[BodiesInFlight]

What the hell are you talking about? Floyd clearly outboxed his opponents.

Wilder loses nearly every round and than stops the opponent.

Nah man, no one has been as well schooled in the sweet science as our Wilder.

If he loses a round its because HE wanted to. He sets traps you see.

[_Rexy_]

It means "back at that time."

Seriously what opponent in Wilder's boxing record makes you think he would have taken Klitschko or the Fury fight back then? Because I don't see anyone remotely near that level.

Your problem is you are a "Wilder fan". Good for you. But boxing fans want to see the big fights happen, and you can tell all from a fighter's record. Its the only thing that doesn't lie.

It's people like you who constantly defend their favourite fighter who take the pressure off these fights happening.

I'm asking you what time. You said that Wilder wouldn't fight Fury "at that time" which is cool. When would they have fought? You don't get to accuse me of being a fanboy while making half truth arguments. If you know what you're talking about, when would Wilder/Fury have happened in your eyes? When did Wilder duck Fury?

Especially since in your earlier statements you eluded to some weird belief that if a beltless little known Wilder had mentioned wanting to fight Klit, the fight would have just happened.