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  • Sid-Knee
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    #61
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
    so you're counting 40 plus yr old povetkin off PEDs and Parker?? Top Rankings don't necessarily make you credible sooo, Yeah... Like I said... What heavyweight has more than 2 credible names on their record.
    Povetkin is over 40? When did this happen?

    If you don't think Wlad, Parker, Whyte and Povetkin are credible, then i'd like you to show me who DOES have a credible resume?

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    • Jab jab boom
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      #62
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
      He is more experienced guy with better wins.

      Ortiz does things ok, but he lacks experience on high level.
      You are aware that if they were scheduled to fight, Ortiz would be favored to win right?

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #63
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom
        You are aware that if they were scheduled to fight, Ortiz would be favored to win right?
        With whom would he be the favourite? Not anyone with any knowledge, that's for sure.

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        • vitali1999
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          #64
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          To me, this attitude towards good fights is what perverts the degradation of boxing. This is why fighters protect their records because getting in a close fight and losing, regardless of how hard you fight is somehow seen as a black mark.
          No wilders whole career is a black mark in the dark. Look at the bums and that's putting it lightly that he fought. A guy at 25-0 should have been fighting much better competition. He created a new standard for cherry picking.

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            #65
            Originally posted by wildman
            Breazeale has fought a total of one credible opponent. And he got knocked out. So where does he have the gall to criticize Wilder's resume?
            I have no dog in this fight, although I do wish to see Wilder vs AJ so I hope Wilder keeps winning but idc either way if Breaze wins.

            But...Just playing devil's advocate here:

            He isn't highly-rated though (DB), or even rated as a top 10 HW by The Ring or TBRB. So I can see his point of view. He's probably thinking why is Wilder so hyped up and so highly rated when we have similar KO rate and he has no losses and I have only 1 loss to the best, and otherwise he has 1 more good opponent than me which he fought to a draw with.

            On the other hand, Wilder only had 30 something amateur fights, so it was necessary for him to be developed like he was in the pros. Can't just fight peak Wladimir Klitschko right off the bat.

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            • Falkano
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              #66
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              wilder is one of the most recognized and highest paid US fighters in the game...thats FACT

              youre acting as if AJ represents the vast majority of the HW scene and US fighters....AJ is a seperate and unique entity

              compare wilder to other US fighters ...in money and recognition....

              ruiz will make good money for the AJ fight...but what he makes will be dwarfed by what wilder makes when he fights AJ....get it?

              are you trying to say finkel,haymon and espinoza know nothing ? you do realize haymon reps ruiz too right? lol

              friggin idiot
              Who is talking about AJ? I didn't mention him?

              Highest paid and most well known? The sad thing is you are actually right.

              But to put that into context last year Mayweather made $275m from one fight against a non boxer.
              Wilder made $4m in his world title fight on ppv versus Fury. The highest pay day of his life.

              The point about Ruiz which seemed to slip you buy is that he is estimated to be getting around $5m+ for his fight. Which as mentioned is more than WIlder has ever earned. That is a World Champion making less money than a guy who has pretty much done **** all in his career.

              Your method to back up the guys who are in charge of him relies purely on one thing. For him to keep winning. That build up to super money means both Wilder and AJ have to keep winning and building up their star power around the globe.
              One loss and it all comes crashing down. For either guys.
              Seeing as everyone pretty much thinks Wilder lost the Fury fight you would think those powerful guys would have taken the warning on board?

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              • Jab jab boom
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                #67
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                With whom would he be the favourite? Not anyone with any knowledge, that's for sure.
                I know that you're desperately seeking my attention..... but fk off. I've already embarrassed you enough and I'm not interested in spending the next 7 days exposing your idiocy and inferiority.

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                • Ake-Dawg
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Cobra Curry
                  I can't speak for everyone and don't want to see them or any boxing promotion fail, but my frustration is that they appear to be the common roadblock to the fights I most want to see and believe would best promote the sport.
                  Mikey v Loma has been ruined, Spence v Crawford is getting the MayPac treatment and Joshua v Wilder is going the same way. I don't understand fans who actively support this in all honesty.
                  Pointing at Top Rank and saying "what about them" is all well and good but we can't criticize them and support PBC doing the exact same thing.
                  So you're saying you can't or won't appreciate the good fights they put on because of the two that aren't happening for marination reasons?

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                  • Ake-Dawg
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by vitali1999
                    No wilders whole career is a black mark in the dark. Look at the bums and that's putting it lightly that he fought. A guy at 25-0 should have been fighting much better competition. He created a new standard for cherry picking.
                    That just seems like a reason to b itch. Why cry about what should have happened back then when it has zero bearing on what is happening today.

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      Yeah, it's AJ and his fans that don't want this fight. Haha.

                      You people need putting down. There is not a single use for you.
                      Go sit in the corner. I said nothing about AJ. Just some of his sad sack fans, you included. You're not even a good troll.

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