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  • #21
    Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post
    Calls himself facts are nice and then posts pure b.s.

    Wilder has been doing the WBC clean testing year round for 5 years? He's one of the cleanest in the sport. But news flash... They ALL are on something. Common sense. Like any pro athlete.
    Not saying anything about Wilder but I've read that some fighters who are enrolled in the WBC year-round testing have never been tested. If that is true it means nothing to be enrolled in such a program because unless the test dates are published after the fact nobody knows who has been tested or not.

    VADA is the only way to go and then, even as Wilder says, the PED formulators are always introducing new drugs so it's a never ending game of cat and mouse.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by hitking View Post
      I don’t know man. If you look back on the last five or so years. Wilder has hovered around the 225-230 range for most of his fights. The exceptions being the Stiverne fights. And the Fury and Ortiz fights. In those he’s been 220 and lower. The first Stiverne fight was at the time his toughest opponent to date. I think he was motivated to stop Stiverne in the rematch. And of course we know that Ortiz and Fury were the best opponents he’s faced in his entire career. So based on his track record, maybe he’s not taking this fight as seriously. But it could also be a situation where he may have overtrained a little bit for Fury and Ortiz. When he was ridiculously light.
      However, with him being heavier it should mean that there shall be more gas for him to burn. Do you agree? I say that because he looked very winded and dehydrated in both the Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury bouts; To the point that I was surprised that he had both the energy and the stamina to drop them both several times while putting one of them away.
      Last edited by champion4ever; 05-17-2019, 04:31 PM.

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      • #23
        Wilder obviously hasn't trained as hard for Breazeale as he did for Fury. That could be a mistake. No fighter should ever take winning for granted, especially at HW.

        I hope Breazeale sparks that ******!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by SteveM View Post
          Not saying anything about Wilder but I've read that some fighters who are enrolled in the WBC year-round testing have never been tested. If that is true it means nothing to be enrolled in such a program because unless the test dates are published after the fact nobody knows who has been tested or not.

          VADA is the only way to go and then, even as Wilder says, the PED formulators are always introducing new drugs so it's a never ending game of cat and mouse.
          Wbc clean boxing program uses vada to conduct tests and if not being tested they remove you from the rankings which is why miller was dropped from wbc rankings when he refused take part in testing

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          • #25
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Wilder obviously hasn't trained as hard for Breazeale as he did for Fury. That could be a mistake. No fighter should ever take winning for granted, especially at HW.

            I hope Breazeale sparks that ******!
            Think wilder overtrained for Ortiz/fury which is why is weight was so low, other then second stiverne fight when he was sick his weight usually been in the 220lb ish area

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            • #26
              Wilder will stand and trade with Breazeale.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by SteveM View Post
                Not saying anything about Wilder but I've read that some fighters who are enrolled in the WBC year-round testing have never been tested. If that is true it means nothing to be enrolled in such a program because unless the test dates are published after the fact nobody knows who has been tested or not.

                VADA is the only way to go and then, even as Wilder says, the PED formulators are always introducing new drugs so it's a never ending game of cat and mouse.

                Buddy, VADA does the WBC's year round testing.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                  Deontay Wilder has the build of someone on PEDs, just sayn.

                  How did he go from being KOed by small guys in the amateurs, floored and nearly being stopped by Sconiers, to knocking out heavyweights?

                  I know his opposition has been poor, with Stiverne the only live opponent he ever beat. And even Stiverne only ever beat a shot Arreola.

                  But Wilder looked so weak when he was being stopped in the amateurs. Why is he so much stronger now?
                  Steroids? They say clean boxing program but we all know they test you like twice a year, Wilder should pay for 365 VADA testing if he is clean.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                    Not to worry. Deontay has to take part in the WBC Clean Boxing program so he is more tested than most other boxers.
                    Then obviously you know nothing of the wbc clean boxing program! Fighters who are enrolled in the wbc clean program are NOT tested more than other fighters and are rarely tested! A lot of those same fighters has never been tested! The wbc so-called clean boxing program is a complete joke but I'm not saying Wilder is on anything! Just as many believed Floyd when he said he was doing year round Olympic style drug testing which was also a complete lie! Floyd only tested soon after his fights was announced! Its funny what boxing fans will believe! That's part of the reason a lot of fighters know they can claim to be the best without actually fighting the best guys because they know if they keep repeating certain words, fans will start to believe and repeat it also!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by hitking View Post
                      I don’t know man. If you look back on the last five or so years. Wilder has hovered around the 225-230 range for most of his fights. The exceptions being the Stiverne fights. And the Fury and Ortiz fights. In those he’s been 220 and lower. The first Stiverne fight was at the time his toughest opponent to date. I think he was motivated to stop Stiverne in the rematch. And of course we know that Ortiz and Fury were the best opponents he’s faced in his entire career. So based on his track record, maybe he’s not taking this fight as seriously. But it could also be a situation where he may have overtrained a little bit for Fury and Ortiz. When he was ridiculously light.
                      Wilder s never fought a 250 power puncher.He was lucky to get a draw vs non power puncher Fury getting stunned as well. Wilder wasn't foolish enough to weigh under 220 , it's a sure loss with this type of opponent.

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