Comments Thread For: Canelo-Jacobs Generates Nearly $8.7 Million, 15,730 Ticket Sold

[redmyth79]

I don't understand how dropping to $8.7 mil from $27 mil is considered a box office success. Is this still prime Canelo Alvarez we are talking about?

That's almost a $20 mil loss in revenue at the gate. Unless Ginger is past his prime and on a decline; How could that even remotely be considered a box office success when compared to his previous box office successes?.

Also, the total gross revenue for his last appearance at the T-mobile arena in his rematch with GGG generated a gross revenue of $117 mil. However, his last fight at the T-Mobile arena according to the article against Daniel Jacobs generated a gross revenue of only $57 mil.

What am I missing because these numbers compared to his earlier numbers don't seem great to me. Also, the paid attendance was down from 27,000 in the GGG rematch to just 15,000 in the Jacobs fight.

I just don't get it.

First off being the 36th biggest live gate event in the history of Vegas would be a success in any book.
Yes the numbers are down but there a few reasons why and none are do to Canelo.
#1 Jacobs has never been a draw. He has that nice guy persona. He never really held a fan base much less a fan base in NY.
#2 comparing numbers to GGG is not a wise look at reality. GGG was propped up by HBO for years and a destroyer. He had built up a large fan base and was favored to beat Canelo so it made for a very large fight the first time combined with Canelo's name. 2nd fight with GGG everybody was shocked how good Canelo looked in the first and wanted to see a superstar perform.
As far as DAZN #'s in the US. Your missing the point entirely. A lot of people are not used to doing these apps yet to watch boxing so it will have to catch on but those are not terrible numbers.
The key to the DAZN #'s is it's world wide numbers especially it's European #'s. If Canelo's fight brought in over 60 million in the US and probably close to another 30+ around the world that's not a bad start for DAZN. They didn't really lose any money then but they didn't get rich either.
They are investing in Canelo and DAZN. DAZN will get double those numbers this time next year and before Canelo's contract is up I'm sure he will have fights doing 3 million plus as it's a new service to all platforms. It's not going to do huge numbers starting off. But over time it will go up.

[Oldskoolg]

naw what i said is that saul alvarez doesnt have white privilege and thats that

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[MisanthropicNY]

This Canelo deal is going to turn out to be worse than CBS's deal with Floyd...

Canelo made $35 million himself. Can we confirm that the fight even made $35 mil in total?

[redmyth79]

That's because GGG was the one fans actually cared about. He was the one chasing greatness the whole time. He was the one who was a potential ATG middleweight in his prime. He was the one chasing Sergio, Canelo, Cotto, Froch, etc, the whole time, being ducked. He was the one fighting 3-4x a year getting knockouts every single time including vs multiple top 5 middleweights. He was the one with the charisma who people were invested in.

But as usual, the "Boxing Establishment" prioritized nationality above everything else and seemed to say to itself, "Well Canelo is the Mexican one, so he must be the one fans like, he's the one we have to protect." In reality, most fans watching only cared about GGG. Only the LDBC and some Mexicans were rooting primarily based on nationality, but most people living in the USA with TV sets are not Mexican or LDBC members.

That's the dumbest line of bull**** I've ever heard on here.
Canelo was always the draw way before the GGG fight. Protect Canelo, BS again. Canelo has sold PPV #'s far exceeding anything GGG ever did. As a matter of fact Canelo's worse PPV was a bigger draw then GGG's best lol but you think the fans wanted GGG. Your a typical delusional triple g fan.
Canelo has been the draw of boxing for roughly 4 years now.
And of GGG was so great he should have stood toe to toe like he asked Canelo to do and beat him. Canelo beat GGG there is no doubts about it. I'm sorry your got your feelings hurt but you need to get over your man getting beat.

[champion4ever]

First off being the 36th biggest live gate event in the history of Vegas would be a success in any book.
Yes the numbers are down but there a few reasons why and none are do to Canelo.
#1 Jacobs has never been a draw. He has that nice guy persona. He never really held a fan base much less a fan base in NY.
#2 comparing numbers to GGG is not a wise look at reality. GGG was propped up by HBO for years and a destroyer. He had built up a large fan base and was favored to beat Canelo so it made for a very large fight the first time combined with Canelo's name. 2nd fight with GGG everybody was shocked how good Canelo looked in the first and wanted to see a superstar perform.
As far as DAZN #'s in the US. Your missing the point entirely. A lot of people are not used to doing these apps yet to watch boxing so it will have to catch on but those are not terrible numbers.
The key to the DAZN #'s is it's world wide numbers especially it's European #'s. If Canelo's fight brought in over 60 million in the US and probably close to another 30+ around the world that's not a bad start for DAZN. They didn't really lose any money then but they didn't get rich either.
They are investing in Canelo and DAZN. DAZN will get double those numbers this time next year and before Canelo's contract is up I'm sure he will have fights doing 3 million plus as it's a new service to all platforms. It's not going to do huge numbers starting off. But over time it will go up.

What this goes to show is that Canelo is not the huge cash cow that we all thought he was. What we saw in him was just a mirage with his it factor, nice looks, complexion and nationality.

The true cash cow in boxing is Anthony Joshua. He sells out more than 90,000 seats at Wembley no matter who he fights or who his opponent is.

Canelo cannot say or do that. He needs an excellent foil in order to be successful and generate a very large sum of money and revenue at the gate; Like a Golovkin, Mayweather or Pacquiao.

I agree. If Canelo had not been this established crossover mainstream star; Then those numbers would have been great. However, judging by his past achievements and successes as a cash cow those numbers are very low and disappointing.

Moreover, had he been a rising star, then it would have been a lot different. Not so much this time for Ginger because the bar is set much higher for him as he held to a different standard. Which is why he was given that $365 mil 11 fight deal in the first place.

[Bronx2245]

I find it hard to believe that 15,730 had a higher live gate than the 47K that attended Spence vs. Garcia, but then again, Las Vegas has all the high rollers!

[Verus]

So Canelo only sold 15,000+ tickets? And only 600,000 buys for dazn in the USA? And I’m supposed to believe that he is somehow the biggest draw in the sport? Im inclined to agree with the folks back home in England, Joshua is a much bigger cash cow in England than Canelo is in the USA. And at they sure that gate sold tipped the 47,000+ for the Spence jr-Garcia fight?
This is in no way good news for dazn, if this is all they can muster putting Canelo in with what was supposed to be the toughest opponent not named golovkin. Dazn is losing money on Canelo, big time.

Neither scribes nor fans mention one of the largest sources of revenue for the fight. An estimated 1/3 of all Mexican households watched the fight on one of two Mexican TV stations that carried the fight live. DAZN did not give away the TV rights for free. To give you an idea of the size of the audience, the population of Mexico is around 130 million. No mention is made if other Latin American Countries streamed it or carried the fight on TV.

[The Big Dunn]

Thats the difference between GGG and the rest of the boxing chumps out there that Canelo can face.

GGG vs Canelo had a $27m livegate and was a sellout, thats what you call starpower.

What you mean to say is ggg has more value as an opponent for the big names than he does as the a side in any fight. That is expected because if you ever listened to the hbo commentary, they were building ggg as an opponent for The top stars from the very beginning.

Tickets in boxing are driven a lot by “if the star can lose”. Bob has been brilliant at doing that for years. Ggg fit that mold perfectly for Canelo.

Hbo gave him guys that they knew he would ko so they could build him as a monster. Hell, he had enough skill that he arguably beat Canelo the 1st fight. That didn’t elevate him as a ticket seller though because he lacks the charisma and appeal that casual fans are most attracted to.

Ggg isn’t a crossover mainstream superstar like Floyd or odh nor is he an transcendent icon among his people like Canelo or Manny.

[TheBigLug]

The seats for Canelo's fight are way more expensive than for Joshua's fights. Can also sold over 52,000 seats in Texas vs a no name opponent. Both are huge superstars the difference is British boxing fans know who Canelo is but not all boxing fans in the USA know who Joshua is. But under DAZN, they will know Joshua in the USA as well

I would've imagined every BOXING fan knows who both are.

But if you want to talk about casual sports fans, then Canelo isn't some sort of household name in the UK or anywhere in Europe, only among people who truly follow the sport.

To be honest, out of all the active fighters, i'd say Manny Pacquiao is still the most well known name worldwide. That might not be reflected in his numbers right now, but the name is well known. Walk down the street in any continent and ask who Pacquiao is, people will know, even if they're not real boxing fans. You can't really say the same for Canelo and AJ, they just have big popularity in their respective countries or where they fight. Your casual sports fan in other countries don't have much knowledge of them.

[MC Hammer]

So an event where the main event was about 40 million they had to pay for all this marketing and DAZN only getting paid off the subscriptions, no one knows how many were even new subscribers, generated like what 20 mil?