Comments Thread For: Fury: Joshua Has To Grow a Set of Nuts - Step Up, Fight Somebody

[Laligalaliga]

Why is this so hard for you guys?

The contract was great money, however it included no dates to actually get the money outside of the Breazeale fight money. Wilder would have been committing to fight on DAZN and letting Hearn determine WHEN he would fight Joshua and preventing him from fighting other lucrative fights like Fury Ortiz and Kownacki in the interim.

So Wilder said thanks but no thanks, but keep that same $40M guarantee energy when we are negotiating a one fight deal against Joshua with an actual date.

Which other lucrative fights can wilder get outside AJ.
He just had Fury's fight and got about 10mil. AJ offers 40mil guaranteed which wilder can't get in any other fight.

So stop that illusion of wilder getting better money fights else where.

[Ake-Dawg]

So what you’re saying is he didn’t want to accept the deal because there was a chance it would interfere with him fighting Ortiz and konowacki? I’m not including fury because it’s not really down to Deontay when that fight happens either.

So now he wants a one fight deal? What happened to the rematch he was crying about before?

Of course there would be a rematch clause.

Again...Wilder signs the deal and then what? Joshua says 2020 so he can build his US profile. Joshua gets hurt June 1st and needs a tune up pushing the fight back to 2020. What does Wilder do in the interim while contractually obligated to DAZN?

[Ake-Dawg]

Which other lucrative fights can wilder get outside AJ.
He just had Fury's fight and got about 10mil. AJ offers 40mil guaranteed which wilder can't get in any other fight.

So stop that illusion of wilder getting better money fights else where.

No one is under any illusion that the biggest fight to make in boxing is Joshua Wilder. What you're not addressing or acknowledging is that without a fight date contracted or any guarantee that Wilder fought Joshua next, Wilder would not be able to fight for PBC while waiting on the Joshua fight to happen.

So the deal came down to this, DAZN was willing to overpay Wilder for Breazeale if he helped them build DAZN. The Joshua money is there whether the fights on DAZN or Showtime ppv.

Otherwise the offer would have been just for Joshua and the rematch.

[Fabes88]

Of course there would be a rematch clause.

Again...Wilder signs the deal and then what? Joshua says 2020 so he can build his US profile. Joshua gets hurt June 1st and needs a tune up pushing the fight back to 2020. What does Wilder do in the interim while contractually obligated to DAZN?

That’s a lot of ifs and buts. Aj has stated he wants wilder next on many occasions I think deep down you know that getting aj to agree would’ve been a formality but wilders side still rejected the deal because they wanted to know how much aj was getting paid Which they wouldn’t tell him because that hadn’t been discussed yet.

These are things that could’ve easily been worked out if wilders side came to the meeting with the right attitude. I mean wilder fans could see how aj could sign the 50 million deal despite all the legal roadblocks so I’m sure you can use that objective head to understand that none of your roadblocks are genuine dealbreakers.

[Redgloveman]

Why is this so hard for you guys?

The contract was great money, however it included no dates to actually get the money outside of the Breazeale fight money. Wilder would have been committing to fight on DAZN and letting Hearn determine WHEN he would fight Joshua and preventing him from fighting other lucrative fights like Fury Ortiz and Kownacki in the interim.

That’s very difficult to believe. This wasn’t some hastily arranged contract. John Skipper and Finkel were in deep negotiations for some time and it’s frankly implausible that such fundamental details weren’t cleared up. Further to this, if what you said was the case then why hasn’t Finkel mentioned it? the PR train which he has been diligently building has taken a big hit from this offer being turned down and he has complained about exactly the same matter before - prior to the Povetkin fight. If it was an issue again surely he would mention it again?

Let’s be honest here; he didn’t mention it because it didn’t really happen.

You’re a sensible poster, but you’re clutching at thin, thin straws here

[DaNeutral.]

Wilder said the same thing about Joshua. But then Wilder is facing somebody Joshua wiped the floor with years ago. And Fury, Well Fury is fighting Tom Schwarz. I think Fury knows nobody is impressed with that pick so is making loads of noise about the other "top" fighters and who they are facing so we dont spend as much time talking about Tom PPV superstar Schwarz.

Reality will kick in when the numbers on either side of the pond for that fight are complete stinkers.

[Laligalaliga]

No one is under any illusion that the biggest fight to make in boxing is Joshua Wilder. What you're not addressing or acknowledging is that without a fight date contracted or any guarantee that Wilder fought Joshua next, Wilder would not be able to fight for PBC while waiting on the Joshua fight to happen.

So the deal came down to this, DAZN was willing to overpay Wilder for Breazeale if he helped them build DAZN. The Joshua money is there whether the fights on DAZN or Showtime ppv.

Otherwise the offer would have been just for Joshua and the rematch.

These are just lame Excuses that dnt make any sense. 100mil for Breazeale -AJ - AJ fight and that's all.
It could be trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight. So where is all these using wilder to build DAZN coming from?

All I see is excuses not to put the green belt on the Line. No other way to explain this.

[KP1]

What was Fury’s best win after 22 fights, Chisora ?

Dip ****.

[Pennsauken1]

Ruiz is better than the bum you are fighting

[Armchairhero]

I honestly blame Hearn. He got Joshua to believe that he was this huge A-Side superstar and signed him up with DAZN and booked dates and venues ahead of time. The rest of the division seems to have decided that team AJ is too difficult to deal with and aren't marching to their tune.
Boxing politics is holding up the division. I don't believe that the top fighters are afraid of one another.

That’s one way of looking at it, another would be as soon as AJ’s name is mentioned they want millions more than they are worth or have ever/will ever learn. Take the Ortiz debacle as a perfect example of this