Comments Thread For: Fury: Joshua Has To Grow a Set of Nuts - Step Up, Fight Somebody

[Ake-Dawg]

You've got it twisted my man. I thought my post made it pretty clear that it's you who is making the big assumption - see my point 5. In fact you made the big assumption in the first place and I just pointed out the unlikelihood of it.

I've already made my points as to the problems I had with your post and I think I made them clearly enough the first time.

You made points that represented your assumptions of what DAZN did or didn't do. I responded with my thoughts and why. Simple enough. As I stated, your assumptions are such that slant your point if view that blame must be laid and laid on Team Wilder.

You seemingly understand the importance of having a date on a contract and ASSUMED that there was a contractual date for the Joshua fight to happen. That then allows you to take the already stated "control" issue off the table of discussion, which as you know is paramount in boxing.

[Bobby Deez]

... says the guy who ran from a rematch (with help of Arum)

Tell these *****'s

[MastaBlasta]

that is exactly what the 100mil is for.
Breazeale -AJ-AJ (3 fights).
So where and how is DAZN controlling his future fights?
I didn't say DAZN want to give him Christmas gift (100mil).

That and not revealing what AJ would make to fight where why it was turned down. He already has promotion for his fights. He's just trying to fight AJ. So no deal. That's not running from the fight, that's turning down THAT specific package.

They could still easily make the fight. Just make 1 fight with ALL the particulars on the table for both participants (like it's been done forever), and if the particulars are accepted you have a fight.

Wilder's message was: we don't like the deal offered. That's not running from a fight. That's business. If you don't like the deal, even if you like the car, you don't buy it.

[MastaBlasta]

He was offered Breazeale, Joshua, Joshua rematch.

Or Joshua, Joshua rematch.

It's all in the public domain. You don't need to come up with conspiracy theories.

Again, John Skipper isn't some bloke with three cups telling Wilder to guess which one the ball is under (Tip: it's actually in his pocket). He's a reputable businessman making an offer for a fight.

If it's that easy to make the fight then it would have happened. It won't come down to whether or not they ask MastaBlasta from the BoxingScene Forum to write the contract for them!

LoL, hopefully they won't. But for all John Skipper's reputation and means they wouldn't tell Wilder what AJ was gonna get paid. Boom, deal breaker. Wilder sounded like he may have accepted the 3-fight deal just to get the fight. But they didn't want to put AJ's purse in the public domain did they?

After hearn clowned Wilder with the offered purse the 1st time, Wilder isn't playing with them. He will NOT be lowballed to AJ as long as both are champs, and I don't blame him. So, no deal.

That is not "scared" or "running from a fight". It's business.

[MastaBlasta]

Lol @ control. The three fights are a fight he has to take next anyway, the Joshua fight he so desperately wants, and the rematch they refused to offer the last time so what is there to cry about really

Per Wilder, they didn't want to tell what AJ was making. It's important to Wilder after hearn lowballed hm so bad a year ago. He's a champ, makes this fight a "must see" fight, and he is not accepting peasant pay as compared to AJ for THIS fight.

[Bobby Deez]

Fury has the best skills among current hw, but lacks power. AJ is more balanced, but would lose on points vs Fury.

Agreed my dude

[Laligalaliga]

That and not revealing what AJ would make to fight where why it was turned down. He already has promotion for his fights. He's just trying to fight AJ. So no deal. That's not running from the fight, that's turning down THAT specific package.

They could still easily make the fight. Just make 1 fight with ALL the particulars on the table for both participants (like it's been done forever), and if the particulars are accepted you have a fight.

Wilder's message was: we don't like the deal offered. That's not running from a fight. That's business. If you don't like the deal, even if you like the car, you don't buy it.

that's all bullock excuses. wilder not knowing how much AJ will earn in the fight stopped the fight from happening. do you reason with your brain at all? These are just escape routes to act like they were interested in the fight.

What's his fccking business with AJ's purse for a pretender that pretends to want to be an undisputed one face one name one bla bla bla.

Funny, right?

[Laligalaliga]

LoL, hopefully they won't. But for all John Skipper's reputation and means they wouldn't tell Wilder what AJ was gonna get paid. Boom, deal breaker. Wilder sounded like he may have accepted the 3-fight deal just to get the fight. But they didn't want to put AJ's purse in the public domain did they?

After hearn clowned Wilder with the offered purse the 1st time, Wilder isn't playing with them. He will NOT be lowballed to AJ as long as both are champs, and I don't blame him. So, no deal.

That is not "scared" or "running from a fight". It's business.

wilder always love the soft route... Hez not signing because hez not heard any health issues about AJ. Once such rumour surfaces, boom, he will see his lost pen immediately.

[Laligalaliga]

Per Wilder, they didn't want to tell what AJ was making. It's important to Wilder after hearn lowballed hm so bad a year ago. He's a champ, makes this fight a "must see" fight, and he is not accepting peasant pay as compared to AJ for THIS fight.

the brother is just being jealous. he should have unified when he had the chance but no, he was damn scared to risk the green belt on the line.

Martin, Parker were all champs in his presence but he couldnt present neither of them with a decent offer to unify but he wants to hold Eddie ransome for the undisputed.
It doesn't work that way.
They had 50mil in the bag according to you guys on boxingscene, 5/6/7mil would have unified with either Martin or Parker but some how a group of experienced managers or advicers couldnt see that opportunity for their baby champion after having over 30 fights.

Believe you me, when wilder looses that green belt, he will beg for fights for 3mil.

[Fabes88]

Per Wilder, they didn't want to tell what AJ was making. It's important to Wilder after hearn lowballed hm so bad a year ago. He's a champ, makes this fight a "must see" fight, and he is not accepting peasant pay as compared to AJ for THIS fight.

Lol that lowball figure Hearn offered is still more than he’s made for any fight. So I really wouldn’t call it lowballing him so bad. Yes he’s being offered a lot more but that’s not because that’s what he’s worth (the fury fight showed that) it’s because he’s holding the belt hostage.

Would you consider what he made against fury peasant pay? Seeing as it was less than the flat fee offer.

He’s never going to get the same as aj anyway. Aj gets extra money per fight from his sponsors.