Pass a law that fighters can only be signed on a fight-by-fight basis?

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  • The Gambler1981
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    #31
    I don't know that that can be enforced, my main problems with long term deals in boxing is they literally do nothing for the fighter because if their value takes a hit that contract is not worth he paper it is printed on. That lack of a safety net is why fighters should always be on the lookout for quality money when they can get it and make sure not to get shorted in those rare opportunities (which makes fights hard to make because no one really wants to pay like that).

    I don't think it changes much though because that can all be worked out in a long term contract if a fighter's value goes up.

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    • TonyGe
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      #32
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Nope, if I was a boxer I wouldn’t agree to that. If I have a voluntary fight and lose then my belt is gone. I wouldn’t be able to get a rematch if I wanted. Imagine Lennox not being able to get a rematch again Rahman.

      This is why I like the Haymon model of advising his fighters not to be tied down initially, but since he (PBC) is now aligned with Showtime/Fox that model has a lot of holes because now he has to play politics, before it was about the fighters being in control, but now he is in control of the fighters and where they fight.
      What exactly does Haymon do and what is his role. Seriously I know very little about him and his fighters. Is he a manager or a promoter?? How does he get paid?? Are his fighters under contract? What does he provide as an advisor?

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        #33
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Good points.

        You explained very well why my suggestion might not work for prospects breaking into the sport.

        I hadn't considered that.


        that's because you ahve absolutely no idea how the sport works.

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          #34
          Originally posted by New England
          that's because you ahve absolutely no idea how the sport works.
          Ok T-Rex Arms. Whatever you say.

          It's more instructional when someone takes the time to explain why an idea might not work. Instead of just telling you how ignorant you are for even discussing the idea.

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          • Ray*
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            #35
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            What exactly does Haymon do and what is his role. Seriously I know very little about him and his fighters. Is he a manager or a promoter?? How does he get paid?? Are his fighters under contract? What does he provide as an advisor?
            Personally I think he is more or was more of a father figure to them, most of them are not educated, and they get taken advantage of. He came at a time when boxer go broke a few years after retirement.

            He has helped them become more business savvy, more independent and unattached, the issue now is this, he himself is now becoming what we use to despised in Don King or Arum. He has now set up PBC who basically promote boxing rather than mentor or advise these boxers.

            So now with PBC he has aligned himself with a certain network (Something he wouldn’t want for his fighters in not having a promoter or a network), and he is now playing politics like every other promoter.

            My biggest issue is the fans that criticise people who call him out for blocking fights, they weren’t ok with it when Arum was doing it, they use to criticise Arum just like I use to, but if you criticise Haymon now then you are a “Hater”...

            Some people hate him for the same reason that some people love him.... Read into that whichever way you want to.

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