Truth of Myth: 'Wilder is avoiding Joshua' ?

[Real King Kong]

Haymon doesn't talk publicly. He could make 50 offers and if Hearn claims on IFL he hasn't made any offers, that's what fans will believe.

The truth is that Hearn and Finkel/Haymon have had talks off and on for years and continue to have talks now. Hearn has received numerous offers, including a 2 fight 120 million deal to fight Wilder twice on Showtime, as a counter to DAZN's 4 fight 120 million deal for Wilder. Hearn has been very clear. The fight can only happen on DAZN.

Will Hearn say that on IFL? No. Why would he? He can typically lie with impunity. He knows Haymon won't respond. When Espinoza actually posted proof that Hearn was lying about the fight being on Sky, Hearn just plays dumb about the meaning of the word "contract" and all the AJ fans fall for it.

The Wilder side is done with the PR battle. They've accepted AJ's fans will believe anything. So they're going in a different direction for now. Hoping to get a Fury rematch in the first half of next year, and hoping DAZN cancels their Matchroom deal so Joshua might fight Wilder on Showtime PPV at the end of next year.

so could you. I mean, if you don't have proof of all these offers, then why talk about them? you seem to like using unverifiable information and half truths to slant the argument in pbc's favor. you're telling people to not take hearn's word, which is understandable, but act as if we should take the word of some random forum poster instead?

[STREET CLEANER]

Well, call it what you like. A deal with a 50% fury was done in 48hrs, fine.
How come a deal with 80%fury can't be made over a month now?

Mr intellectual, I need ya fccking response.

Numb nuts, you don't even know what you are talking about and you make no sense. I would stop while you are ahead. Like many here your own post are going to bring you down and look like a clown.

[Real King Kong]

Everyone should be skeptical of everyone. I'm totally fine with people not believing me, but Hearn should be treated with the same level of skepticism, if not more. He has skin in the game. I don't. I'm just offering insight based on my 20+ years of working full time in boxing/wrestling/MMA. None of the things I discuss on this site affect my bottom line. I have no incentive to lie. PBC isn't the one paying me.

well for someone with no skin in the game, you seem to always be slanted in one direction regardless of circumstance. as far as who "pays you"...were you also playing the "paid to post" angle when you posted as original zero? i don't recall.

[uppercut510]

I think promoters and politics on both sides has ruined this fight and all the other fights we want to see. we will see it but something will happen along the way to take away the "umph", in the meanwhile ill enjoy both fighters beating underwhelming opponents. Wilder is taking a big gamble but hes betting on himself, If I were him I would have took the money but we wont know if it was a ****** decision until its all said n done.

[that g]

No, but I'm friends with high ups at Showtime that are privy to the behind the scenes negotiations.

espinoza, is that you???

and then in a subsequent post, you claim that you have no "skin in the game."

lol. fraud.

[Laligalaliga]

No. Definitely not. A lot of people in the industry post here, but most of them pretend to be fans and just push whatever their agenda is. I'm one of the few that is honest and admits I'm not a fan, explains what my purpose here is, etc.

what you accuse others of is exactly what you do on this site. you barely have 20% truth in your posts on this forum.

If am wrong, create a post about how honest you are on this group and see people's response/reactions about you.

I will be honest with you.

[Laligalaliga]

To be fair, i dont think (or hope) he is campaigning for it to be $90, but does make sense how Wilder's side believes it will make significantly more $ on PPV than a flat fee, which I think is pretty obvious now. IMO this is more network wars btwn Hearn/Al than AJ or Wilder personally not wanting to fight which sucks for the fans

AJ is the unified champ, wherever he is is where the fight will happen.
Mayweather did it, canelo is doing it and other champs.
Whoever wants AJ's belt will bend to his terms and conditions. That's how the sport works.

[Laligalaliga]

Numb nuts, you don't even know what you are talking about and you make no sense. I would stop while you are ahead. Like many here your own post are going to bring you down and look like a clown.

why couldn't the fight was made you mudafccker?
Fury is nothing longer the mental deranged person they thought. hence, fight couldn't be made.

All wilder and his camp do is look for an opponent at a disadvantage. That's all they av been doing all his career.

[mathed]

Wilder is TERRIFIED of AJ. If you can't see that by now, you need an eye examination.

[Real King Kong]

I wasn't being paid to post until this account was created. This account was created because myself and two friends were hired to explain boxing politics.

I'm not slanted in one direction regardless of circumstance. My position is that Hearn is a pathological liar. On a daily basis, there are new lies to point out. I don't know if Haymon is a pathological liar because Haymon never speaks.

well wilder and his team had plenty to say thorough out this whole circus and their tune has now changed, that much is for sure.