Truth of Myth: 'Wilder is avoiding Joshua' ?

[Ray*]

Have you heard Lewis talk about AJ in recent times?
Hez faced with reality now and hez bottled.
He must be feeling ****** for all the things he said about AJ.

Nothing from him so far, he usually stays silent until something happens from the other side, then he would decide to talk.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him come out with "The money talk, let it marinate, they would make more, its a business thing" thats what fanboys do really. And he is a fanboy at the end of the day.

So basically they are in favour of us not getting the undisputed fight. As much as i hate Arum, he is working Loma through the undisputed fight at 135, Loma already has two belts, he has just been approved for the WBC title with campbell and Lopez is fighting an eliminator then Commey for the IBF belt, which means they would meet for all the belts.

The moment Mikey Garcia (Haymon associate) got remove from the situation, we have the plan in motion for the undisputed. I don't see those sort of plans when it involves a Haymon fighter (I could be wrong doe)..

[N/A]

There’s like 2-3 guys left on here that still try to defend wilder.

And what a coincidence that they happen to be the only 2-3 guys with an actual understanding of how the industry works.

[N/A]

I think everyone knows by now that they avoided this fight from day one

Hearn and Joshua both admitted the 50 million was real. Hearn said on IFL he'd been negotiating with Haymon and Finkel for weeks, that they answered all of his questions about the 50 million offer, that everything looked kosher, but that Joshua was leaning towards turning it down because he wanted to fight at home.

So do you see why it would be hard for me to take you seriously when you say Wilder avoided the fight from day one? He was risking making very little on the fight in order to give Joshua his 50 million. Why would somebody avoiding the fight give their opponent everything their opponent asked for? Doesn't make any sense.

I've watched you become radicalized over the years by Hearn's propaganda. It used to be a lot harder to fool you. You used to be one of the most reasonable posters on this site. Now you've been turned into a full Hearn zombie. It's really sad to see.

[N/A]

At this level of the game avoiding/ducking isn't even a thing. Its just something fans, usually fanboys, love to claim is happening. At this level of the game where money & marination are legit concerns its a business & things will happen when the dollars make sense to all parties cuz at this level no one is making fear based decisions. Guys at this level are making business based decisions.

Biggest issue is this.

Only the first two years of Hearn's DAZN deal are guaranteed.

Hearn struck that deal before John Skipper took over and before DAZN signed Golden Boy.

Why does DAZN need to pay a UK promoter a ton of money to build their US business when they already have the biggest star in US boxing?

Skipper would have NEVER signed that Matchroom deal and Hearn knows it. Hearn's best chance of proving his worth to DAZN is delivering Joshua vs. Wilder. If he can't deliver that, he's in serious jeopardy of DAZN opting out of the final six years of the deal.

That is why the fight hasn't happened. Hearn will only allow the fight to happen on DAZN, but Wilder knows the fight would make way more on PPV. Why should Wilder take less so Hearn can rescue his DAZN deal? Why not wait it out and let Hearn lose the DAZN deal, forcing Hearn to make the fight on PPV like Wilder wants.

[Scopedog]

Nobody's ducking anyone in the manner that people try to imply, it's just that both guys (or more likely their promoters) want the biggest possible share of the gorillion dollars that the fight's expected to make and refuse to compromise. It's greed, not cowardice, that's preventing this fight.

[Laligalaliga]

Nothing from him so far, he usually stays silent until something happens from the other side, then he would decide to talk.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him come out with "The money talk, let it marinate, they would make more, its a business thing" thats what fanboys do really. And he is a fanboy at the end of the day.

So basically they are in favour of us not getting the undisputed fight. As much as i hate Arum, he is working Loma through the undisputed fight at 135, Loma already has two belts, he has just been approved for the WBC title with campbell and Lopez is fighting an eliminator then Commey for the IBF belt, which means they would meet for all the belts.

The moment Mikey Garcia (Haymon associate) got remove from the situation, we have the plan in motion for the undisputed. I don't see those sort of plans when it involves a Haymon fighter (I could be wrong doe)..

You might be right thou..... But most certainly lexis is on mute at the moment. The better for everybody.

[kafkod]

Hearn and Joshua both admitted the 50 million was real. Hearn said on IFL he'd been negotiating with Haymon and Finkel for weeks, that they answered all of his questions about the 50 million offer, that everything looked kosher, but that Joshua was leaning towards turning it down because he wanted to fight at home.

That's not true. Hearn was not talking about the $50million offer when he said that. What he actually said was that the fight would make a little more money in the States than in the UK, but not enough to guarantee AJ $50million.

The only thing AJ ever said about the $50million offer was that if he'd accepted it he would have had to pay millions of pounds to Sky as compensation for breaking his contract with them, so it wasn't really a $50million offer at all.

[Laligalaliga]

And what a coincidence that they happen to be the only 2-3 guys with an actual understanding of how the industry works.

am sorry to tell you but you have shabby knowledge about the industry and reality.
That's the humble truth.

[Boksfan]

It's a fact, Wildher is avoiding Joshua, just look at this duck.

[kafkod]

Biggest issue is this.

Only the first two years of Hearn's DAZN deal are guaranteed.

Hearn struck that deal before John Skipper took over and before DAZN signed Golden Boy.

Why does DAZN need to pay a UK promoter a ton of money to build their US business when they already have the biggest star in US boxing?

Skipper would have NEVER signed that Matchroom deal and Hearn knows it. Hearn's best chance of proving his worth to DAZN is delivering Joshua vs. Wilder. If he can't deliver that, he's in serious jeopardy of DAZN opting out of the final six years of the deal.

That is why the fight hasn't happened. Hearn will only allow the fight to happen on DAZN, but Wilder knows the fight would make way more on PPV. Why should Wilder take less so Hearn can rescue his DAZN deal? Why not wait it out and let Hearn lose the DAZN deal, forcing Hearn to make the fight on PPV like Wilder wants.

More lies!

Skipper moved to DAZN so he and Eddie could work together building the APP in the US and elsewhere. They are long time associates and were talking with other and with DAZN before either of them even joined the company.

Hearn has never said that AJ/Wilder can only happen on DAZN.