Comments Thread For: Chavez Sr: Canelo Among Mexico's Best 10, But Not in Top 3 or 4

[NachoMan]

Between morales and jmm. They're the only mexican boxer who gave pac a good fight.

JMM and Morales are both greats, but Mexican boxing actually began before Manny Pacquiao started fighting. Pretty sure that some of the other Mexican greats in their primes (Sanchez, Zarate, Olivares, Finito come to mind) could have given Pac a good scrap too.

[Marvlus Marv]

Top 3 Mexicans: 1. Andy Ruiz 2. Chavez Jr 3. Speedy Gonzalez.

[Morandis]

Salvador Sanchez & Julio Cesar Chavez

Will always rank above Canelo
on skill set and resume alone.

I agree with this. Canelo will never be as complete a fighter as Sanchez was (very few in history were), and Chavez basically has the same skill set as Canelo except he did everything a little bit better.

[dwayne3534]

Add into the fact that he had gift decisions against Lara, ggg, as well as the fact that many observers thought Jacobs lost it by giving away early rounds than Canelo beating him....in other words jacobs lost it more than Canelo won it

Nobody will remember that though. All of those guys had questionable wins too. They also all lost to guys they were not supposed to lose to except Marquez. Let's see how Canelo's career ends.

[Arma316]

Shouldn’t be. He’s a proven cheater

[alexnation]

Who the fuck is talking to you idiot

I just couldn't leave one of the most imbecile comments on this forum without attention

[j0zef]

That's fair. Right now, JCC, ODH, Salvador and JMM are all clearly bigger names than Canelo. But Canelo's only 28, he has plenty of time to catch up.

[chrisJS]

The problems with Canelo are that he’s actually popped dirty in his prime and su****iously looked bigger and stronger since then. His fanboys turn a blind eye to that as they do all his significant wins are either very controversial (Lara, GGG) and then some very close fights were he didn’t create much distance. Look at the big wins of Marquez, Morales, Barrera, Chavez, Sanchez, Saldivar etc; they seldom relied on controversial decisions and often had big dominant wins.

He’s in the 11-15 range with Baby Arizmendi, Rafael Marquez, Gilberto Roman, Jose Luis Castillo etc; but he’s not on the skill level (nor will he ever be) of Canto, Lopez, Zarate the lower end of the top 10 and it will be very hard for him to be as great as the upper echelon guys like Chavez, Olivares, Marquez, Sanchez, Saldivar, Barrera and Morales.

He’d need to start getting some dominant wins and looking as good as those guys and even then popping in his 20s vs. a late 30s guy raises a lot of su****ion.

I see Canelo fanboys and Floyd fanboys being prisoners of the moment and elevating him prematurely but there’s been a lot of great Mexican boxers. Slow your role.

[Death_Adder]

I just couldn't leave one of the most imbecile comments on this forum without attention

Did I ever claim Duran as a Mexican national you moron? I just said where his dad is from.

[NachoMan]

Just off the top of my head:

1. JCC
2. JMM
3. MAB
4. Ricardo Lopez
5. Erik Morales

All had better resumes than Canola, and that's just going back to the 90's. Sure there were others from earlier eras like Salvador Sanchez, Carlos Zarate, Ruben Olivares?? etc., who were better than him too.

Casuals are so easily influenced by recency bias lol.

But, unless you are pushing 70yrs old, how much of those guy's careers did you actually see? What do you know about each of those guy's competition or their respective eras? Are you just deferring to what you've read? IMO, Canelo's career is already on par or better than MAB's and Morales'. Finito had amazing skills and a great career record, but who did he really ever fight? Canelo's resume right now is among the very best in the entire sport and he' still only 28 years old. In my view, he's one of the smartest and most improved fighters in the last 5 years, so who is to say that he has hit the wall and could not improve to one day surpass all of the top Mexican fighters? I loved watching JCC back in the day. He was a great pressure fighter, but he could be frustrated by slick and quick stylists. Canelo seems to have more facets to his style. Canelo's greatest advantage though is that he is the top marquee fighter in the sport, so he will have plenty of opportunities to prove his greatness against the very top level guys until the time he retires.