Interesting that these fighters all come up with the Flu consistently during camp.. I mean, some get sick every camp,.. Wilders was 214 with the Flu vs Stiverne.. then 209 vs Ortiz.. AJ was sick vs Povetkin.. I mean wtf is up with fighters immune system?
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Originally posted by Toffee View PostThis is a great example of being desperate to think what you want to think.
Maybe you can make a case for Joshua not improving. But can you really use fair logic to see Wilder not declining?
Time is definitely on Joshua's side.
Age is a factor as is the amount of punishment sustained throughout your career.
Your prime starts to decline at age 35 so they both have room for improvement.
Joshua had rough fights with Wlad & Parker but nowhere near as taxing as Wilder with Ortiz & Fury.
Wilder makes his fight harder than need be by abandoning his jab.
One of the best jobs in the division given his speed. Wilder's power comes from his speed but his isn't as educated with his punch placement as AJ.
AJ has much better poise; Wilder has much better speed.
Basically comes down to who ever lands first.
Doesn't make either a bum for losing to other, it's boxing & somebody is going to lose.
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Originally posted by blue_dolphin View PostWAR BRAZZERS!!
WAR RUIZ!!!
hope AJ and Wilder both lose
They both have developed this greed and sense of entitlement.
I don't mind seeing the egos but they both deserve to lose before they fight.
That would be hilarious if they both lost their upcoming bouts.
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Originally posted by SinderellaMan View PostGood point.
Age is a factor as is the amount of punishment sustained throughout your career.
Your prime starts to decline at age 35 so they both have room for improvement.
Joshua had rough fights with Wlad & Parker but nowhere near as taxing as Wilder with Ortiz & Fury.
Wilder makes his fight harder than need be by abandoning his jab.
One of the best jobs in the division given his speed. Wilder's power comes from his speed but his isn't as educated with his punch placement as AJ.
AJ has much better poise; Wilder has much better speed.
Basically comes down to who ever lands first.
Doesn't make either a bum for losing to other, it's boxing & somebody is going to lose.
But I think there's a strong case that Wilder will decline from here. Punchers always do.
He might improve as a boxer with the experience he's finally gaining but it's not boxing skills that have got him where he is. He's past 30 and almost entirely dependent on his speed. Not a good place to be if we want to see them fight in their prime.
Joshua is more of a boxer puncher - he's got years of improvement left.
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Age dont matter to deontay cuz he has no plans to face Joshua at any age. They just don't want it. No need to debate it cuz wilder and finkel are actually saying it and admitting it. Chickens.
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