Do any NON-Mexicans actually rate Canelo?

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  • KillaMane26
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    #31
    Canelo a good fighter and what stands out most is how much he improved after Floyd/GGG fights. I just think he clearly lost to GGG in first fight and 2nd fight shoulda been a draw.

    I hate how Canelo-fans call everyone a hater who is critical of him even when you give him credit!

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    • moochi
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      #32
      I think the reality is that this argument is pointless. Just by saying that somebody is not great, does not mean they we are saying he is ****. He is very good, without a doubt, i really like him, but a spade is a spade simple as that.

      I don't care about GGG, yes he beat Canelo clearly (especially in the first), but the fact that boxing and the commentators keep talking about him being great is really sad (as it's so obvious they just wanna stay in GBP good books).

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #33
        Originally posted by moochi
        Dunno dude, when I say "rate" i mean as being great and P4P.

        On your logic, do you also have Keith Thurman in your top P4P list?
        Nah, he was maybe top 10-15 following his wins over DSG and Porter but he’s been way too inactive.

        Canelo’s resume is clearly that of a p4p level guy. There’s a couple of dubious decisions. (The first GGG fight for sure) but he still holds wins over GGG x2, Jacobs, Cotto, Lara, Trout, Mosley etc.

        His skill set is also P4P level. I was at both GGG fights and the Liam Smith fight and his technique, combination punching, timing, upper body movement and control of distance are all elite level. Has very underrated footwork and defence as well.

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          #34
          Originally posted by moochi
          Like seriously, he's a good fighter, but he lost to GGG twice and I'm not even sure he won tonight (but was close).

          I can't believe the amount of either one-eyed or bias people on here...I'd love to see him actually win a fight clearly, but until now I haven't and that's when I can't rate a fighter in the top of any rankings... yet I see ppl writing about his "resume" and him being a P4P fighter, FML am I drunk or am I just dumb.

          His best wins are against Liam Smith, Amir Khan, Rocky Who? Fielding and James Kirkland, just about every other "win" was not a win!
          Moochi... God damn, there's a name from the past. It's been a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time, brother.

          I thought Canelo won last night, and I didn't think the second GGG fight was a terrible decision, just made to look worse by all the "lucky" decisions he's had before (including the first GGG fight, where GGG did more, and he did less).

          That's my take, anyway. The lad's got some skills, so it's a shame all the roiding and paid judges get in the way.

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          • MehdiQaos
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            #35
            Yes of course, for me he is p4p 1

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            • Johnny2x2x
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              #36
              I have Canelo 1-1 vs GGG. Those were 2 close fights. His other close fights were not controversial at all to me. And last night wasn’t a very close fight, 8-4, 9-3, 10-2, or7-5 were all good cards.

              Here’s what’s tough for Ggg fans. Canelo is the anti GGG. He went pro really young instead of staying amateur. He took on challenges early instead of fought bums into his early to mid 30s. And he changed weights too to make his best fights. So whether you have Canelo 2-0 or 0-2 vs GGG, he still has and always will have a better resume than GGG by a mile.
              Last edited by Johnny2x2x; 05-05-2019, 08:32 AM.

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              • boogbx
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                #37
                Originally posted by moochi
                Like seriously, he's a good fighter, but he lost to GGG twice and I'm not even sure he won tonight (but was close).

                I can't believe the amount of either one-eyed or bias people on here...I'd love to see him actually win a fight clearly, but until now I haven't and that's when I can't rate a fighter in the top of any rankings... yet I see ppl writing about his "resume" and him being a P4P fighter, FML am I drunk or am I just dumb.

                His best wins are against Liam Smith, Amir Khan, Rocky Who? Fielding and James Kirkland, just about every other "win" was not a win!
                Top 3 p4p ahead of Crawford and behind Loma and USYK.

                Don’t have to be Mexican to recognize a great fighter. Canelo is a great fighter. Beat a Cruiserweight last night.

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                • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                  #38
                  Canelo is P4P#1 haters wont admit but while they hating Canelo is on his way to cementing his ATG Status. #BIGFACTS

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