Comments Thread For: Golovkin: Banks Teaching Me New Skills, I Believe in His Methods

[aboutfkntime]

I'm a big fan of GGG, but what you said is spot on. Much too late in my opinion as well. And what is DAZN giving a potential 100 million dollar package to a guy at the tail end of his career who is showing some very visible signs of slippage? The Canelo trilogy must be set in stone already to justify this kind of financial arrangement.

EVERYTHING points to that assumption.....

Golovkin's total reluctance to put himself in harms way regarding opponent selection..... refusing Charlo/Andrade, either of whom would almost guarantee him another Canelo payday..... despite signing a huge deal with DAZN, even though Golovkin has no other obvious opponents

but, nope..... Canelo confirmed that nothing in his contract ties him to a rematch with Golovkin

Canelo also stated that Golovkin needs to win a title if he wants that rematch

it would not surprise me at all if the trilogy does not happen

and I couldn't care less..... Canelo PROVED that he is a better fighter, and Golovkin has done nothing to earn another Canelo payday

this is the funny thing..... if Canelo refuses to rematch Golovkin, because he brings nothing to the table and will not fight a threat..... Team Golovkin will 100% try to blame Canelo, despite the fact they had two clear paths to that fight and did nothing..... and their awful fanbase will 100% agree with them

because I am well-aware that both of those scenario's are likely..... I just wish Golovkin would hurry up and retire

Golovkin is not really relevant to the middleweight division, if he will not take meaningful fights

[The Problem Child]

I am a believer that the trainers personality transfers over to his fighter. Banks is a lifeless, boring, robot. Gennadiy needs someone to hype him up and lit a fire under his ass like Robert. We'll see but for now, no pghts in jack city.

[Roberto Vasquez]

The reason behind boxers dropping trainers is always the percentage. The trainer might be getting 10% at the beginning of a boxer's career. 10% of $1000 for a fight is $100. Not much to pay out. But when you sign a big say 100 million deal - that's 10 million dollars that goes to the trainer. I read so many boxer's autobiographies where fighter and trainer (or promoter) split for this reason

[MisanthropicNY]

EVERYTHING points to that assumption.....

Golovkin's total reluctance to put himself in harms way regarding opponent selection..... refusing Charlo/Andrade, either of whom would almost guarantee him another Canelo payday..... despite signing a huge deal with DAZN, even though Golovkin has no other obvious opponents

but, nope..... Canelo confirmed that nothing in his contract ties him to a rematch with Golovkin

Canelo also stated that Golovkin needs to win a title if he wants that rematch

it would not surprise me at all if the trilogy does not happen

and I couldn't care less..... Canelo PROVED that he is a better fighter, and Golovkin has done nothing to earn another Canelo payday

this is the funny thing..... if Canelo refuses to rematch Golovkin, because he brings nothing to the table and will not fight a threat..... Team Golovkin will 100% try to blame Canelo, despite the fact they had two clear paths to that fight and did nothing..... and their awful fanbase will 100% agree with them

because I am well-aware that both of those scenario's are likely..... I just wish Golovkin would hurry up and retire

Golovkin is not really relevant to the middleweight division, if he will not take meaningful fights

I don't agree that meaningful fights within the division matter when you're already established. I wish you were right. Crawford hasn't fought any meaningful fights at Welterweight and a fight with Spence is still the divisions most important. Winning a title doesn't make a fight "meaningful."

GGG v. Canelo 3 is still by far the biggest fight. It just seems that now GGG needs the fight more than Canelo does. Canelo is willing to fight anyone and can score huge paydays with any of the guys you mentioned. Canelo can even possibly lure one of the 147 pounds guys to move up for a big pay day or lure one of the 175 pound guys to move down to 168. Canelo really holds the cards but I think the GGG trilogy is still the most realistic big fight for either especially with DAZN involved.

[angkag]

ggg will be fluent in english by mid summer and able to juggle and use a pc ^^

And how to float like a bee, sting like a butterfly

[Hulk_Mann19]

1st fight G won. 2nd was a Draw. But why allow any other outcome to the face of golden boy....??? Casual mentality. He doesn't want that smoke for a 3rd fight.

[lopetego]

GGG is becoming a much better wrestler as we speak

[aboutfkntime]

I don't agree that meaningful fights within the division matter when you're already established. I wish you were right. Crawford hasn't fought any meaningful fights at Welterweight and a fight with Spence is still the divisions most important. Winning a title doesn't make a fight "meaningful."

GGG v. Canelo 3 is still by far the biggest fight. It just seems that now GGG needs the fight more than Canelo does. Canelo is willing to fight anyone and can score huge paydays with any of the guys you mentioned. Canelo can even possibly lure one of the 147 pounds guys to move up for a big pay day or lure one of the 175 pound guys to move down to 168. Canelo really holds the cards but I think the GGG trilogy is still the most realistic big fight for either especially with DAZN involved.

yea I'm sure DAZN want that fight, only Joshua/Wilder would be bigger

still, like Canelo said..... there is nothing in his contract that commits him to a trilogy fight with Golovkin

I would not be surprised if a trilogy fight never happens

if fact, I doubt it will happen

the issues are.....

1) money!! Canelo was desperate to beat Golovkin, and more importantly..... to clear his name following the PED debacle..... so, they offered Golovkin 45%

how much will Golovkin be willing to accept for the trilogy fight, because Canelo is no longer desperate to beat Golovkin or to clear his name..... in fact, no idea why Canelo would consider fighting Golovkin..... because Canelo has a HUGE guarantee regardless as to opponent, and Golovkin has refused to bring anything to the table

I am sure that Canelo will fight Andrade next, and I am just as sure that Golovkin will not fight a known/difficult opponent after Steve Rolls.....

would Golovkin accept 30%..... a huge paycut, like he expected Abel to accept..... when it comes time to negotiate?

would he even accept 35%, IF GBP decide to be extra generous?

if he will not be coming off a good win, and cannot/will not, bring fans or titles to the table..... and Canelo is not desperate to fight him..... then how much is Golovkin worth to Canelo?

2) Canelo told Golovkin to win a belt if he wants that fight

not saying that is right or wrong, because it does not matter

Canelo said it..... Golovkin could have done it, but he did not

3) Canelo could become undisputed with Andrade then move to 168

4) Golovkin could retire

5) Golovkin could lose

6) Canelo could lose

it could still happen, not sure

I disagree with you about divisional relevancy

after Klitschko lost to Fury..... he did not select Steve Rolls

he behaved like a true champion, and put himself right back in the mix

I think that the 2 best middleweights will be fighting tomorrow, and I have no idea if Golovkin can beat guys like Andrade Saunders Charlo.....

..... or, Derevyanchenko

if Golovkin is not fighting the best, then he is irrelevant.....

like Pacquiao is, at welter..... and Pac was way more established than Golovkin

I don't care if I never watch either of them again, unless they are in relevant fights

there is talk of Pac fighting Thurman, which I would definitely watch.... but no talk of Golovkin fighting the "Thurman's" at middleweight, Charlo and Andrade

Golovkin has wasted so many fights in his career

selecting Vanes..... when fights with Canelo, Saunders (unification), Derevyanchenko (mando), Charlo (mando), Andrade..... were bottle-necked up for September..... was INSANE!!

that was obvious going to cause an impossible logjam

OBVIOUSLY

nobody said a thing, despite the fact that ridiculous selection would obviously have an impact on unification's/mandatory's as well as a huge Canelo payday..... something had to go, and it was always likely to be one of Gennady's titles

I dunno man, you could be right..... but if Golovkin does not get that trilogy payday he has nobody to blame but himself

[Boxingwizard]

Golovkin should have hired Teddy Atlas. GGG needs to go back to the fundamentals, stuff like footwork and create more opportunities incorporating bob and weave style like Tyson. Teddy Atlas would have been the perfect trainer for that. But Banks is a solid trainer, he did good worth with Wladimir, I think Banks will fix a lot of Golovkin's flaws.

[Kiowhatta]

I agree with a previous poster that this is a bit too late. I have been ****ing on for years that Golovkin needed a new trainer as he's completely lost the ability to throw body shots - a crucial tool for any power punchers toolbox.

Under Sanchez, Golovkin became too predictable and again - against Canelo I was stunned that Golovkin did not work the body almost not at all - I suppose we will see in the near future if Banks can remind Golovkin of this terrible rookie mistake and at least make him a threat for the last couple of years of his career.

His only hope against Canelo in a third fight would be an away match where the judges aren't home cooking, or he learns to break Canelo down with such effective bodywork he takes him out.

Both scenarios are highly unlikely.