Comments Thread For: Canelo is Firm That Jacobs Deserved the Nod In Golovkin Fight

[Boxing_1013]

A lot of posts and opinions but no scorecards. I thought it was pretty easy to score, only 2 close/hard to call rounds:

1) close round but GGG edged it at the end with a couple shots, not much action
2) close round, swing it to Danny
3) clearest round so far, for GGG, he started to get warmed up here
4) GGG (KD)
5) GGG
6) Danny - good boxing and moving round from Danny; probably a little shoe-shining but I left the round thinking it was pretty clearly his
7) Close round - may shade it to Danny
8) GGG
9) GGG
10) Danny
11) Close - shade it to whoever you didn't give number 7 to
12) GGG

Danny fought well and battled and showed a lot of heart, but can't see how anyone can find 7 rounds for him. Giving him 5 rounds would be a stretch. 8-4 GGG the correct score imo. Can't see a scenario where anyone gives Danny even 6 rounds or GGG 10 rounds. 9-3 to 7-5 the right range.

[famicommander]

I disagree.

I had Golovkin beating Jacobs and beating Canelo both times.

I thought Jacobs came closer to beating GGG than Canelo did, though.

[Boxing_1013]

While we're on the subject, I'll post my GGG-Canelo 1 and 2 cards as well, thought those were pretty straightforward wins for GGG as well:

1st GGG Canelo fight
1 - GGG, close feel out round
2 - Canelo, close round - pretty clearly 1-1 after 2 rounds imo
3 - GGG, starting to get warmed up
4 - 6 - I have scored these differently, but I always have GGG up 4-2 after 6. I think I usually give Canelo the 5th round. But after 6 it felt like a 4-2 fight.
7-9 - GGG warmed up, Canelo slowing down - clear rounds for GGG
10-12 - more competitive - round 10 I usually see as a 10-10 round but I shade it to Canelo when I score it. 11 - close but shade it to GGG
12 - good final round - usually shade it to Canelo since the fight was already over anyway.

8-4 to GGG. Not really a way to find 7 round for Canelo in this one.

[Boxing_1013]

2nd GGG Canelo fight
Rounds 1-3 - all close rounds, I have had each guy up 2-1 after 3, giving them different rounds as well. GGG is outlanding Canelo in these rounds, but Canelo would have the most memorable moment of each round. I usually shade it 2-1 to Canelo
4-5 - GGG starting to get warmed up - 2 clear rounds for him.
6 - close round, I always end up shading it to whoever I had down 2-1. So 4-2 GGG after 6.
7 - 8 - close rounds, usually split them with Canelo taking number 7 and GGG number 8
9-11 - clear GGG rounds. Warmed up to this point and Canelo just weathering the storm.
12 - Close round, I usually shade to Canelo since the fight was over at this point.

8-4 to GGG, can't really see how anyone can find 6 let alone 7 rounds for Canelo. You would have to give him every close round.

[Boxing_1013]

To put this another way - in Jacobs GGG - Jacobs outlanded GGG in 2 rounds, one of those rounds by 2 punches, one by 5. GGG outlanded him in 9 rounds, 5 of those rounds by 4 or more punches, 4 of those rounds by 7 or more punches.

In Canelo GGG 1 - Canelo won one round on the punch stats, by only 2 punches. GGG won 10, 8 of them by 4 or more punches.

In Canelo GGG 2 - Canelo won 3 rounds on the punch stats, one by 2, one by 1, one by 7 (and my eyes tell me the numbers were much closer in that 6th round). GGG won 8 on the punch stats, including 6 by four or more punches.

I sometimes disagree with Compubox numbers but often times they give a good picture of what is happening imo, and that was the case in these 3 fights.

I fully believe that if GGG fought the way Jacobs and Canelo fought in those fights, and vice versa, the same people who have those fights as close, or have GGG losing now, would then have GGG losing 10-2 lol. Which I think tells you all you need to know. I would score the fights to Jacobs and Canelo if they fought GGG's fight and vice versa, but they didn't do nearly enough to win. The rounds just aren't there for them.

If GGG is actually in a 6-6 fight people will say he lost 9-3. If he really loses 8-4 people will say he lost 11-1 lol. Just the way it is. A lot of people hate him and want to see him fail, legitimate or not.

[ShoulderRoll]

Mexican and British tv both scored the fight for Jacobs over Golovkin.

[Boxing_1013]

The thing is - if people want to hate on GGG, they can take the angle that GGG should have KOd Jacobs, who has shown to be chinny, and Canelo, who was a smaller man moving up to 160 and fighting GGG in his first 2 fights at that weight, if GGG is really as great as people make him out to be.

But instead of leveling that criticism at him, they instead try to say these guys deserved a win against him, which is just crazy when you watch the fights from a neutral POV. Just makes people seem as though they have an agenda and aren't keeping it real, just being very tribal and not objective.

[Boxing_1013]

Mexican and British tv both scored the fight for Jacobs over Golovkin.

Do you have their scorecards? The only way I could see anyone scoring any 3 of those fights against GGG is if they were really desperate to try and see a ***** in his armor and gave every close round, and even sometimes clear GGG rounds, to the opponent.

So yeah I could see how Mexican TV or even British TV would score fights against GGG, wrong as they would be in these cases.

How did you score the fight, rd by rd?

[kushking]

Do you have their scorecards? The only way I could see anyone scoring any 3 of those fights against GGG is if they were really desperate to try and see a ***** in his armor and gave every close round, and even sometimes clear GGG rounds, to the opponent.

So yeah I could see how Mexican TV or even British TV would score fights against GGG, wrong as they would be in these cases.

How did you score the fight, rd by rd?

Well considering you have your head so far up gggs arse that your suffocating,that might have something to do with that.....

[the secret]

Obviously, YOU didn't watch the fight, "again". Jacobs clearly should have been given the decision against GGG.