Comments Thread For: The Ladder To Stardom: Canelo's Ups (Many) and Downs (Few)

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #11
    he selected Trout, when he didn't have to.....
    he selected Lara, when he didn't have to.....
    he selected Golovkin in his first real fight at 160, when he didn't have to.....
    and he selected Danny Jacobs, when he didn't have to.....


    " because he didn't have to "..... is LITERALLY the excuse that Golovkin fans have given me, when I asked them why G never lifted his finger to make those kind of fights


    Originally posted by Blond Beast
    Are u saying he’s gone above and beyond what’s expected of a great champion?



    nope, I am saying that Golovkin never even came close

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #12
      Originally posted by MDPopescu
      ... I remember that the Trout fight was "open scoring", right?
      Not like the ones in Japan where Inoue would know the score each round.

      Partial open scoring and full scoring ain’t too bad imo. It’s main benefit is so that corners never complain in the post result and to see what their actions are after each round, meaning how they took the last round’s score.

      Canelo did get that knockdown with that straight right cross, did him knowing the score make the difference? Who knows.

      At the end of the day, Canelo was like 22 or 23 and has historical defensive moves in slow motion... proves he did a lot of sparring with his brothers, same way Floyd was naturally tuned into what he saw and experienced growing up.

      Canelo haters don’t acknowledge that Canelo’s Ring IQ let alone movement is REAL. Regardless if Cotto was lighter, Geale was 180+ lbs, and your average man can’t dodge and slip combinations from Cotto!!!! Lol. Casuals

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      • MexicanStyle#1
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        #13
        As a Mexican fan ... and as any Mexican fan we expect greatness out of the fighters representing us.... I give Canelo credit but not at the level of what he would be now if he was American. If he was American I can guarantee he would be placed at God level right now... American media is good at building American heroes.

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        • boxingfan4ever
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          #14
          I'm not a fan of Canelo, I do not like Canelo, and I hope Jacobs will knock him out ... I dislike De La Hoya and all his trap ... but I can recognize that Canelo Álvarez is a very good fighter, very hard ... I'm a fan of GGG, but this one could not decisively beat Canelo either ... I saw the first fight winning closed Golovkin and the second I saw him winning Canelo closed .... I think the third fight was what I was commanding today, not Jacobs . Canelo for me is not that superstar ATG yet, but if it is the best there is today ... he is 28 years old .... I understand that if he manages to clearly defeat Jacobs, and achieve in the next 4 years, face and decisively defeat guys like Andrade, Charlo, Golovkin III, Hurd, Callum Smith, Munguia and Spence, then we must accept that he is an ATG ..... for now he is only a good P4P fighter ....... but he has the youth and the caliber rivals ahead to make history ...... for my part .... I want Jacobs will tear his head ...!

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          • mxtali
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            #15
            Originally posted by TheCell8
            Here's what Canelo is missing and what hurts in P4P discussion: He lacks a signature win over an A level opponent. By signature I mean clear cut decisive victory where he wins at least 8-9 rounds.

            His 4 biggest victories: Cotto, Trout, Lara and Golovkin were all either competitive or controversial. None can be considered decisive.

            Jacobs is another one of the those top fighters, and here's Canelo's opportunity to pick up a clear cut win and establish him as top 3 P4P.
            Cotto and trout not clear?? No credibility to see here.

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            • mxtali
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              #16
              Originally posted by Robertthebruce
              His PED conviction hangs over him. He is a cheat like Miller. His excuse is just as bad as Furys eating uncastrated wild boar lol. P4P Lomachenko is the best without question he is 100% clear cut best in his division and never had gift decisions but Canelo got gifts both times against GGG and everyone knows it apart from Canelo nuthuggers.
              When tf has Loma faced anyone as good as GGG? [QUOTE]

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              • Elastic Recoil
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                #17
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                he selected Trout, when he didn't have to.....
                he selected Lara, when he didn't have to.....
                he selected Golovkin in his first real fight at 160, when he didn't have to.....
                and he selected Danny Jacobs, when he didn't have to.....


                " because he didn't have to "..... is LITERALLY the excuse that Golovkin fans have given me, when I asked them why G never lifted his finger to make those kind of fights


                just saying
                He took clenbuterol when he didn't need to
                He forced his opponents to fight at catchweights when he didn't need to
                He avoided Golovkin and vacated the WBC middleweight title when he didn't need to
                Seemingly gifted decisions by judges all the time
                Since losing to Golovkin and Floyd he has pirated parts of their styles...

                Just saying!

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                • kushking
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Elastic Recoil
                  He took clenbuterol when he didn't need to
                  He forced his opponents to fight at catchweights when he didn't need to
                  He avoided Golovkin and vacated the WBC middleweight title when he didn't need to
                  Seemingly gifted decisions by judges all the time
                  Since losing to Golovkin and Floyd he has pirated parts of their styles...

                  Just saying!
                  Pirated parts of their styles? you clown he has literally ALWAYS fought the same ways he still does just gotten better at doing it.

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                  • Bjl12
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                    #19
                    Michael Rosenthal is a dick sucking faggot BIGPOPPAPUMP you fucking CHODE using little pansies to write for you.

                    Lil White Breadman whines about the cancer of boxing fans, but uses diverse and polarizing bloggers like this jerkoff. Man suck a fat one like your writers do

                    Might as well be on ESBs corny blog bullshit site

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